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Microsoft says Windows 10 April update is fit for business rollout (ok now you're ALL getting it!)
The Register ^ | Jun 15, 2018 | Simon Sharwood

Posted on 06/15/2018 2:52:40 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: Paladin2
I think that was my latest mistake. I tried the KDE desktop and it confused me. I'll download the Cinnamon desktop version and give it a whirl.

Thanks.

61 posted on 06/16/2018 12:45:45 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Paladin2

And I’ve got hard drive trays as well, so yes, a different hard drive is definitely the way to go.


62 posted on 06/16/2018 12:46:26 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: ducttape45

I think I started in 2014 with Mint 17.

Once I got the WINE and VirtualBox (WinXP to get stuff done and others (Haiku/BeOS, Win3.11, Win95, Android- but it doesn’t work yet) to fool around with) things straightened out it was full speed ahead.

Install a wireless card and the OS will allow you to easily create an AP to share an Ethernet connection. I even have a tiny USB bluetooth thingy to send audio to bluetooth speakers.

I think it is too late for me to go back. (Win10 probably doesn’t like all of my (”legacy”) hardware anyway).


63 posted on 06/16/2018 1:03:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( TOO?)
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To: Paladin2

I got Linux Mint 18.3 installed. I even installed the Palemoon web browser. Something that bugs me though, is the hesitation in the mouse pointer whenever the mouse. It don’t matter if I use a wired or wireless. Wonder what causes that?


64 posted on 06/16/2018 3:38:58 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: ducttape45

No hes here using an old M$ (they sold some good hardware) USB Intellimouse Optical 1.1A.

I vaguely recall that video hardware was involved in mouse actions but that coulda been serial port mice.

Mouse driver?

Video driver?

Video hardware?


65 posted on 06/16/2018 3:48:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( TOO?)
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To: ducttape45

A quick Google search goes here:

https://superuser.com/questions/528727/how-do-i-solve-periodic-mouse-lag-on-linux-mint-mate


66 posted on 06/16/2018 3:52:38 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( TOO?)
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To: ducttape45

Menu -> Preferences -> Mouse

Try some different settings there, from reading the aforementioned google link, look at touchpad settings too.


67 posted on 06/16/2018 3:58:49 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( TOO?)
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To: Paladin2

In a console after typing sudo lshw
I get this for the mouse entry:

description: Mouse
product: Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)
vendor: Microsoft
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@6:1
version: 3.00
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=2Mbit/s


68 posted on 06/16/2018 4:12:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
I updated the video driver to a more current NVidia driver, and even though that fixed the mouse problem now one of my video cards (I got two installed) stopped working, and it's the one that drives my 42 inch monitor with the built in speakers via HDMI audio. I updated the driver via Mint's Driver update feature. Now I gotta figure out how to get the second video card operational.

I tried downloading a driver from NVidia but I can't figure out how to install a .run file.

Egads.

69 posted on 06/16/2018 7:42:59 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: ducttape45

Ain’t nothing simple.

I don’t do two video cards. Only a single vid card that does two monitors, at best.

I would like to try 4k one of these days.

You are going to need more Help than I can provide hints to.

Depending on support for the vid cards, you may or may not make it work.

A review of eye resolutions tends to show that one monitor at HD is more than one can use the full resolution of. (how’s that sentence for winning a prize in composition?)


70 posted on 06/16/2018 9:11:31 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
What I really need to do is get one video card that can support more than two monitors but I haven't searched yet. My machine has parts that are 5 years old and older so I might not find one.

But I'm trying to figure this out. At least I got a Mint OS h/d now and got it working, sort of. Next I want to install Windows 7 virtually, maybe even XP. If I can do that, that would be ideal.

Thanks for all your help!

71 posted on 06/17/2018 4:20:37 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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"Next I want to install Windows 7 virtually, maybe even XP. If I can do that, that would be ideal. "

Oracle's VirtualBox can do that. It takes the usual hours and hours to load the OS and then the apps, but once done the VMs are very portable from machine to machine. The best part is to clone the VMs so if they get hosed, they can be resurrected in minutes. You only have to go through the hours and hours once.

72 posted on 06/17/2018 6:02:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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That’ll be my next project. I need to get a better, faster hard drive though, and a better video card, but after that I’d like to get to that. If I can get W7 & XP virtually, then I won’t have to worry about Windows 7 when MS discontinues supporting it. I’d like to wean myself off Microsoft products. Plus it’ll give me time to find Linux equivalents to programs like Photoshop, Office, Acrobat, etc.


73 posted on 06/17/2018 12:26:39 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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Gimp, OpenOffice, and there are .pdf apps.

The VirtualBox setup has three parts: The app, extensions and an iso that needs to be loaded and run from within each VM.

Then the big hassle is to get the USB things setup to pass through and some sort of shared drives/folders to be able to pass files among all of the machines.

Oh yeah, after getting an OS loaded into a VM, clone it before and after running service packs and loading apps so as to not have to retrace successful large steps.


74 posted on 06/17/2018 12:55:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
The previous times I tried Linux I used KDE.

Unfortunately, KDE specific spins are being dropped from Mint with 19 from what I understand. I'm gonna have to go with a different distro when I decide to upgrade, since I like KDE.

75 posted on 06/18/2018 6:37:50 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Paladin2
I learn something every day. Never noticed the lshw program before. I normally use lspci or dmidecode. Thanks!
76 posted on 06/18/2018 7:34:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: ducttape45
I tried downloading a driver from NVidia but I can't figure out how to install a .run file.

I created a shell script called 'bogus.run'. (the '.run' isn't really necessary, but I used that so it would be like what you said.) If you look at the following snippet, the first command shows the file. (kind of like the DOS "dir" command. What's important there is the first field that shows "-rw-r--r--". A file with permissions like that cannot be executed, no matter what the name is. You can see that when I attempt to run it. (permission denied). Next I change the file so that it is now executable with the "chown" command. Looking at the listing again, you can see the file is now executable. Then I'm able to run it.

$ ls -l bogus.run
-rw-r--r-- 1 amp amp 23 Jun 18 09:36 bogus.run
$ ./bogus.run
bash: ./bogus.run: Permission denied
$ chmod +x bogus.run 
$ ls -l bogus.run 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 amp amp 23 Jun 18 09:36 bogus.run
$ ./bogus.run 
Bogus executed!
$ 

77 posted on 06/18/2018 7:42:52 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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Apparently one of the reasons the command line is described as powerful is there are just a boatload of commands, many of which are in fact quick and powerful on
their own.

I don’t remember many, so I have to do web research each time to get some suggestions on what to use and how to use it.


78 posted on 06/18/2018 8:25:59 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: zeugma

That gives me something to work with tonight when I get home after work. I’ll check the file permissions and see what I get. Do I need to be in root to do this?


79 posted on 06/18/2018 8:42:06 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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Do I need to be in root to do this?

That depends.

If you're the owner of the file, you do not need root permissions to make it executable. In the example I posted the owner is 'amp', which happens to be the user I executed it as. Most likely, if you downloaded the file with your browser, you'll be the owner, unless you are really, really stupid and are running your browser as 'root'.

I'd recommend reading about Linux file permissions. You might read through this, which looks pretty comprehensive. If you google "linux permissions" you'll find billions and billions of articles about it.

Now, the above information about permissions doesn't really answer your question. (sorry) This is because it's important to know what your the program is going to be doing if you run it. Let's look at the following...

$ cat bogus.run 
echo "If I can run this, I'm going to try to delete /etc/resolv.conf"
rm /etc/resolv.conf

$ ls -l ./bogus.run 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 amp amp 91 Jun 18 12:32 ./bogus.run

$ ./bogus.run 
If I can run this, I'm going to try to delete /etc/resolv.conf
rm: remove write-protected regular file ‘/etc/resolv.conf’? y
rm: cannot remove ‘/etc/resolv.conf’: Permission denied

$ ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 118 Jun  6 21:34 /etc/resolv.conf

Above I use the "cat" program to see what bogus.run contains. It's a really simple script that will echo some text then try to delete a file. You'll see that I have the correct permissions and am the owner. So, when I execute it, it will run. However even though it tried to delete the specified file it couldn't. The reason why is shown in the next command. /etc/resolv.conf is owned by root, and while you, as just a normal user can read the file (that's what the third "r--" means), you cannot write to it, which means you cannot delete it. So, though you could run the program, it couldn't do what it wanted to do. You would need to execute it with "sudo" in order to work. I would strongly not advise doing this, as deleting '/etc/resolv.conf' will break the internet for you.

In your initial post, you indicated that you wanted to install video drivers. I am almost positive that this will require root permissions. So, you'd have to use sudo to execute it. i.e., "sudo bogus.run" (which I'm not going to do, because breaking the internet for me would ruin my day.

80 posted on 06/18/2018 10:41:03 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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