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Conservatives Fail the N.F.L.’s Free Speech Test
NY Times ^ | May 24, 2018 | David French

Posted on 05/25/2018 6:25:41 AM PDT by C19fan

The United States is in the grips of a free-speech paradox. At the same time that the law provides more protection to personal expression than at any time in the nation’s history, large numbers of Americans feel less free to speak. The culprit isn’t government censorship but instead corporate, community and peer intimidation.

Conservatives can recite the names of the publicly shamed from memory. There was Brendan Eich, hounded out of Mozilla for donating to a California ballot initiative that defined marriage as the union of a man and woman. There was James Damore, abruptly terminated from Google after he wrote an essay attributing the company’s difficulty in attracting female software engineers more to biology and free choice than to systemic discrimination. On campus, the list is as long and grows longer every semester.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: billkristolspick; davidfrench; football; nfl
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To: Lurker

Germans are worse!.....................A+..............


21 posted on 05/25/2018 7:27:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: Lurker

I see you learned something today.


22 posted on 05/25/2018 7:28:47 AM PDT by kallisti (You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.)
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To: CodeToad

Free speech is a right,not a guarantee. It doesn’t guarantee you an audience.


23 posted on 05/25/2018 7:35:19 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide
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To: C19fan

LOL. The NYT “conservative” houseboy brays on about Free Speech as if a private organization has to give it to its employee. Hey David, can you write anything you want and get it published by the NYT? Or just “I’m a conservative attacking conservatives” columns? Maybe you need to write a column about how the NYT fails the free speech test.


24 posted on 05/25/2018 7:36:30 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: liberalism is suicide

“It doesn’t guarantee you an audience.”

it also doesn’t guarantee you can say what you want to your employer or your employer’s customers.


25 posted on 05/25/2018 7:36:53 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: EdnaMode

“Yup exactly. They can do whatever they want on their social media or outside of work.”

Not even that, really. An NFL player tweeting that the refs are crooked or incompetent, or making other such derogatory or inflamatory remarks, would be subject to disciplinary action. The whole “morals clause” thing comes in if racist or other politically unacceptable public comments are made even if they have nothing to do with the NFL directly. Marshawn Lynch got in trouble for NOT talking!

But your main point is correct, of course, and it makes me crazy when the news media just glosses over that fact.


26 posted on 05/25/2018 7:37:51 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: C19fan
French should write a column about how the NYTs is full of commies and the paper shouldn't be read, let alone paid for.

See how long he keeps his "free speech" at the yellow rag.

27 posted on 05/25/2018 7:39:43 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: C19fan

Proving once again that we cannot coexist with these People.


28 posted on 05/25/2018 7:40:01 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is a dead Commie. Cast your Vote Accordingly.)
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To: C19fan

If 10% of NFL players began protesting in favor of Pro-life during the sporting event, would this author support their right to free speech then? If the answer is no, he needs to re-visit his premise.


29 posted on 05/25/2018 7:45:56 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Proving once again that we cannot coexist with these People.”

Not peacefully anyway.

Sad, but true.

L


30 posted on 05/25/2018 7:54:43 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: C19fan

Exactly backwards—No one is taking away NFL overpaid idiots right to speak off the field, just on the field

WHILE multiple cops have been fired, suspended and/or reprimanded for criticising black lives matter and NFL knee takers. when they weren’t even on the job.

NO ONE should EVER believe the lie that the left supports free speech. They don’t.


31 posted on 05/25/2018 8:40:54 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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To: C19fan
If David French walked into the New York Times newsroom, stood on his desk and spent 3 minutes every morning lecturing his fellow ‘journalists’ on why they should support Trump... he would be "within his first amendment rights".

After several warnings he would most likely be fired ...

Yes, we have rights - but not ‘rights without consequences’. A faster example... an employee yelling the “F” word at his boss... within Constitutional Rights - but NOT within company rules...Same with the NFL..

32 posted on 05/25/2018 8:58:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Code name/Wiretapfever/NationalSecurityLetters/Unmasking/Changing rules/MSM strategy/Leaks-Attkisson)
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To: C19fan

Hoover spied on everyone back then. YAWNIn the last few years, I have grown tired of televised sport. The NBA forced an owner to sell his team because he didn’t like his girl friend flirting with the players... The NFL turned itself into a bunch of people who are either trying to insult the fans or are trying to not hurt the feelings of those same players. MLB...The Cubs won the World Series. There’s no reason to watch baseball anymore... The Winter Olympics have become worse than any program NBC has ever put on the air, including their pitiful news. PGA Golf. Watching a guy play that has too easy of a time with hot looking women and can take anyone’s money on the course is too much like high school all over again for me. I’m donating all my sports tv time to something deeper with more meaning, like American Pickers.


33 posted on 05/25/2018 9:02:21 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: C19fan

And French you fail the mental health test you NeverTump scumbag.


34 posted on 05/25/2018 9:05:41 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: C19fan
"As a veteran of the war in Iraq, I’ve saluted that flag in foreign lands and deployed with it proudly on my uniform. "

For those of you who may not know, Mr. French served in Iraq as a JAG attorney.

His operational role was to make sure that our soldiers weren't being too beastly to the enemy.

35 posted on 05/25/2018 9:06:31 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lurker

An excellent word, coined by the equally excellent essayist, William Hazlitt.


36 posted on 05/25/2018 9:09:49 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: C19fan

We understand free speech just fine- We’re saying the NFL is free to say whatever they wish- HOWEVER- since they have chosen to speak out loudly against this nation and our president- WE say WE will not support this filthy vile country-hating organization any longer

How’s that for free speech french?


37 posted on 05/25/2018 9:13:26 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: C19fan

Hey New York Times, everyone still has their free speech..but as it’s always been we are not required to listen.


38 posted on 05/25/2018 9:22:32 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: jughandle

“WE say WE will not support this filthy vile country-hating organization any longer”.......

NFL employed felons. Why do you think they call it the “National Felons League”?

NO NFL football at this house, be it today, tomorrow and beyond. Hope the “subsidies” are completely eliminated so they can sink or swim on their own without any help from “WE”, the tax payers.


39 posted on 05/25/2018 10:25:27 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

“As a veteran of the war in Iraq, I’ve saluted that flag in foreign lands and deployed with it proudly on my uniform. “...

You are not alone even though many of we veterans never set foot in Iraq. We fought, and some died so the NFL “Felons” could play a game and make millions doing so. At 80 years of age, and a proud Navy veteran, I still stand, remove my hat and proudly stand when the National Anthem is played.


40 posted on 05/25/2018 10:30:24 AM PDT by DaveA37
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