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'Supergirl' Casting a Transgender Character for Season Four
Comic Book ^ | May 22, 2018 | RUSS BURLINGAME

Posted on 05/22/2018 6:45:55 AM PDT by EdnaMode

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To: EdnaMode

I thought biting humor nowadays was called snarking.


61 posted on 05/22/2018 1:27:47 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: a fool in paradise

Was this one of the extras in a superman magazine, or was this a stand alone “Superman’s Pal”, issue?


62 posted on 05/22/2018 3:19:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: reed13k
actually it was in the 60s when Olsen had his own magazine...so before our time... though I’ve gotten a lot of them since then.

I guess so. I don't remember Jimmy Olsen having his own magazine. I remember several versions of comics that featured "Superman", and "SuperBoy" but I must have missed the Jimmy Olsen comics.

63 posted on 05/22/2018 3:22:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think it was superman’s pal but it could’ve just been a superman’s pal chapter in the other comic don’t know


64 posted on 05/22/2018 3:39:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: a fool in paradise
I think it was superman’s pal but it could’ve just been a superman’s pal chapter in the other comic don’t know

I must have missed it. It was possibly a one-of thing for Olsen to do. Did he ever do it again to your knowledge?

65 posted on 05/22/2018 3:49:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EdnaMode
This could be David Duchovny's big comeback:


66 posted on 05/22/2018 3:56:32 PM PDT by x
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To: reed13k
I will give them credit for a fairly decent Brainiac 5 though.

That sounds slightly interesting. I always liked Brainiac 5 as superman's nemesis. So they came up with a pretty good Brainiac 5 for the Supergirl show? Still not enough to get me to watch it, but I wouldn't mind seeing how they portrayed him.

While we are on the subject of Superman Nemesis, I am utterly disgusted with the choice of Jessie Eisenberg as "Lex Luthor." I wasn't thrilled with Gene Hackman doing it either, but I think it is a terrible role for Jessie Eisenberg. That smart alec, smarmy, mouthy schtick just doesn't say "Lex Luthor" to me.

My recollection of Lex Luthor from the comics is that he was not only brilliant and inventive, he was pretty cut and strong. He wasn't Doc Savage, but he looked like he could hold his own in a physical fight.

Lex Luthor needs to be bigger and more intimidating. Jessie just doesn't have the heft.

67 posted on 05/22/2018 3:58:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: x
This could be David Duchovny's big comeback:

He actually looks "passable" as they use the term in the "trans" social set.

That was on "Twin Peaks", wasn't it?

68 posted on 05/22/2018 3:59:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EdnaMode

Come on. Every show needs a transgender. Put one on every news panel. Have one displaying the prizes on the price is right. Make sure there is a transgender cop on every detective show. A tranny announcing every sport. In every commercial make sure one of the people enjoying that fast food is in transition. You cannot have too many transgender people on tv.


69 posted on 05/22/2018 4:00:25 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Boomer One

Never watched the program but consider this to be “jumping the shark”.


See, Fonzie should have been a guy with a vagina. Arla Fonzerelli became Arthur, see? That over macho act was to compensate for the menstruation he went through monthly.


70 posted on 05/22/2018 4:02:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: DiogenesLamp
another time...
71 posted on 05/22/2018 4:10:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Yaelle

I realize that some of the sports talk programs are going to just be a bunch of black men talking on a panel but cannot at least one of them be a drag queen?


72 posted on 05/22/2018 4:12:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Yaelle

those hosts already trash talking each other just put that out there where they can’t talk about the guy being in a dress or sucking sausages or questioning his manhood...


73 posted on 05/22/2018 4:13:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well - Brainiac was Sup’s Nemisis.

Braniac 5 was supposedly 5th generation removed but a good guy with Brainiac 2 making the break. Overall Supergirl has been ok - if they just took out the Social stuff and left it as a good sci-fi/hero thing it’d be fine ... but they Gotta jiggle the knob on things.

Eisenberg has been terrible. It might have worked on a Superboy movie, but not Superman.

Lex has had a couple iterations in the comics. Buff but smart con-man early, slightly overweight king-pin type in the late 80s...that one eventually became president I think...but was still pretty stout.


74 posted on 05/22/2018 4:49:31 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yeah Olsen’s was ‘Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen’ from late 50s till early 70s.

Lois Lane had ‘Superman’s Girlfriend Lois Lane’ same time frame.

They combined with ‘Supergirl’ in the early 70s to become ‘Superman Family’ and that died off in the early 80s.


75 posted on 05/22/2018 4:51:56 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: reed13k
Well - Brainiac was Sup’s Nemisis. Braniac 5 was supposedly 5th generation removed but a good guy with Brainiac 2 making the break.

I'm out of touch. I haven't read a comic since "Death of Superman" which coincidentally I bought because that piece of human garbage named "Bill Clinton" was elected. It just fit the mood that Superman would "die" at that time.

I only remember four or five of his nemesis without someone reminding me of others.

Overall Supergirl has been ok - if they just took out the Social stuff and left it as a good sci-fi/hero thing it’d be fine ... but they Gotta jiggle the knob on things.

I watched a bit of it when it first came out, and you are right. It wouldn't have been bad if they had just stopped the constant politically correct crap. I could even put up with Jimmy Olsen being black, but they just wouldn't stop, so I said screw it.

Eisenberg has been terrible. It might have worked on a Superboy movie, but not Superman.

Exactly. Eisenberg was a terrible choice for Lex Luther. It's hard to imagine them picking someone worse for the role.

He might make a pretty good "Mr Mxyzptlk" though. :)

Lex has had a couple iterations in the comics. Buff but smart con-man early, slightly overweight king-pin type in the late 80s...that one eventually became president I think...but was still pretty stout.

I had probably stopped buying them by that time. I only recall the buff but smart genius.

Someone like Yul Brenner would have been perfect.

76 posted on 05/22/2018 5:08:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EdnaMode

Well, there’s another deletion from my recordings.


77 posted on 05/23/2018 10:38:58 AM PDT by ataDude (.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

To be fair, the first season did promote family values and surprisingly enough defending national borders (as the DEO was effectively the show’s equivalent of ICE/border patrol especially regarding extraterrestrials, and in fact, pretty much the main reason why it even exists, let alone brought in Supergirl to work for them, was because of several aliens who escaped Fort Rozz, many of whom were criminals who were causing a ruckus on the planet), not to mention the character Cat Grant in one episode actually expresses remorse for choosing her career over her kid (and was implied to have chosen to give birth to him rather than have him “taken care of”, if you get my drift), with Kara Danvers actually suggesting she see her son (let me put it this way: Modern feminists, especially the NOW-types, would have practically crucified Cat Grant for showing any remorse for choosing a career over her kid, believing that a woman shouldn’t be satisfied by anything less than a full-paying career, let alone have any interest in starting a family, so that if anything is a rare instance of them pushing for anti-feminism). Heck, the main villains were composed of environmentalist terrorists, and they weren’t exactly treated all that sympathetically DESPITE being Kara’s relatives. In fact, the final few episodes reveal Project Meridia and it had those under the influence actually spouting out stuff taken right out of the liberal agenda, which actually ends up giving a bit of a condemnation to the far-left agenda (though I’m not sure if that was necessarily the intent of the writers).

It wasn’t until its move to the CW starting with Season 2 that it REALLY went far to the left and tried to push everything left-wing under the sun, right down to it all of a sudden pushing for open borders despite it going against what the DEO stood for in the first season. Did it have its warts even in the first season? Probably (the feminist messaging that is occasionally given as well as turning Jimmy Olsen into a black guy were a bit of a turnoff. I mean, not that I dislike blacks, but couldn’t they hire Cameron Monaghan or even the guy who currently plays Archie in the Riverdale TV series to play Jimmy Olsen? They look the part more.). But it at least had stuff in there that made the season redeemable to watch compared to later seasons. It’s actually a bit surprising that the first season would air on CBS, considering it seemed to have a surprising amount of conservative messages in it.

And yeah, I quit after Season 2, after a long period of them effectively shilling for Hillary Clinton in the form of President Marsden, indirectly calling Donald Trump a fascist multiple times (which is a false label, BTW, if anything, Clinton’s closer to a fascist), turning Alex into a lesbian despite NEVER even being implied to have been anything other than straight in season 1, a completely pointless feud between the Daxamites and Kryptonians despite that NEVER being indicated in the comics (and came across as politically-charged), and extremely badly-formed plotlines (for goodness sakes, it literally took the entire season to fully reveal that Marsden was in fact a closet alien after first hinting at it in her formal debut in a similar manner to how they first hinted at Hank Henshaw actually being non-human. I was actually hoping they’d reveal her to have ulterior motives that were inherently bad for the Earth, effectively an evil foil to Green Martian, but that never came to be.), even dropped several plotlines that clearly were planned for the next season (like General Lane and Maxwell Lord planning to do something with the Omegahedron). And going by what I’ve read up on Season 3, without watching even a second of it, I can say I definitely don’t regret the decision to quit when I did. And what’s little revealed of Season 4 only reinforces my view. You would think, especially after Kreisberg got suspended for lewd actions against his female coworkers, that the writers would wise up and keep their political and social views to themselves, but no... Even Arrow seems to be more conservative than Supergirl right now, and that’s saying a lot considering that Green Arrow, the superhero series Arrow was based on, is one of the more left-wing superheroes in the comics. I’m surprised they even BOTHERED with a Season 4, considering just how bad its ratings are right now. Had it been me in their position, I’d probably cancel the series specifically BECAUSE of its bad ratings.


78 posted on 07/03/2018 2:58:23 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: poinq

“If you have watched Supergirl its clear that the show is propaganda for pro immigrant, pro cross-race sex, pro gay and transgender, pro diversity in the work place. There are hot lesbians making out. Every story line revolves around a villain who hates humans or non-humans. No more are villains just trying to take over the world or make a lot of money, they now have to eradicate some species.”

Well, Supergirl certainly is all of those things post-Season 2/post-move to the CW, I’ll give you that. However, in the first season, back when it aired on CBS, you could make the case of it promoting national borders and condemning illegal immigration (since most of the episodes dealt with arresting literal illegal aliens who were causing various crimes. Heck, the entire point behind the DEO was essentially ICE/Border Patrol regarding aliens.). As far as homosexuality, the only time in season 1 where it was even discussed under any capacity was in the first episode when Winn asked if Kara was coming out as a lesbian, and even there she denied it with some bemusement (remember, Alex during season 1 was still straight, this was before season 2’s infamous decision to turn her gay for no real reason). And other than maybe changing Jimmy Olsen into a black person, they really don’t discuss diversity much (in fact, ironically, the Flash crossover episodes for that season actually has Cat Grant bashing the CW’s tendency to rely on pro-diversity themes for its various shows when meeting Flash, Olsen, Danvers, and Winn in her office). Heck, the main villains of the first season, which were the extremist group composed of Kara’s aunt and uncle and some Kryptonians, actually had the Project Meridia victims parrot the leftist party agenda line, which actually gave a condemnation to the left if you really think about it. Heck, the only villains with explicit desires towards genocide in Season 1 were the White Martians, and to a lesser extent Braniac 7, and even there, the White Martians solely wanted to exterminate Green Martians, not really caring about anyone else unless they got in the way, so it’s more non-humans wanting to exterminate other non-humans rather than a human/non-human divide, and as for Braniac 7, she was an explicit psychopath who simply wanted a lot of people, regardless of species, dead, and was so dangerous that even Kara’s uncle was wary of her, and only resorted to her plan of just blowing up people’s brains as a last resort after their initial plan of brainwashing the earth failed. Plus, aside from all of the above, there’s actually a surprising anti-abortion/anti-feminist message in one episode, where Cat Grant actually expresses remorse for choosing a career over her kid (and she didn’t even have an abortion either, since she meets him for what we assume is the first time since putting him into adoption), and Kara ultimately agrees with her and suggests she go see her son. Like I said before, the feminists, especially those of the Betty Friedan/NOW stripe, would probably have tarred and feathered Cat Grant for even having any remorse or second thoughts to choosing a career, let alone doing so regarding her kid. That’s why I get irritated when people claim that Season 1 Cat Grant was a Clintonista (true Clintonistas would be the types to follow the NOW group in lockstep, as Hillary Clinton notoriously put down women being homemakers a while back).


79 posted on 07/03/2018 3:19:04 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: Hildy

Only betas and gammas. Any alphas that happen to appear are always villains.


80 posted on 07/03/2018 3:23:02 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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