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Why Lenovo Is The Best Laptop Brand And Apple Fell Off A Cliff
Tom's Hardware ^ | April 20, 2018 at 6:12 AM | Avram Piltch

Posted on 04/20/2018 11:52:18 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie

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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Hate to say I told you so...”

Whatever you or the author have to say has little to do with whether or not Apple laptops do well. They remain extremely popular with developers and creative types for a variety of reasons. Many folk also think that Thinkpad quality is nowhere near what it used to be these days.

The nitpicking around only having USB-C ports is silly. Apple is leading the way as usual, and there are compact all-in-one solutions that provide all the legacy ports you could want with very little hassle. Docks as well.

Editing 4K video on a 15” or less screen is also a straw man argument. Any serious work will be done on a much larger display...which is easily done with a MacBook Pro and an external monitor.

I personally think Apple took a wrong turn with the Touchbar, which it’ll likely address soon enough. Apple could also use a higher end “Pro” laptop with 32 GB of ECC RAM and a Xeon processor. All that said, though, Apple gets an awful lot of things right...

By the way, I’ve come to prefer the short-throw keyboards, they definitely reduce typing fatigue - and they’re quiet.


41 posted on 04/20/2018 12:45:30 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Hillary got a lot of Vote’s too. Doesn’t mean her time wasn’t past.

The fact they came in 7th was the interesting part.


42 posted on 04/20/2018 12:51:29 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: fwdude

I have one that’s 6 or 7 years old and apart from the failed battery, works just fine.


43 posted on 04/20/2018 12:51:48 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I can’t speak to the quality of the current crop of Apple laptops, but in the Windows world, Panasonic Toughbooks are in a class of their own, far exceeding the durability, build quality, reliability, support and servicing of any other vendor, including Lenovo.


44 posted on 04/20/2018 12:51:49 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: fwdude
Guess you haven’t looked at the newiMac Pro. It’s an impressive upgrade, if you have the $$$. There’s not a windows box that comes close in the design department. I/O per $ is still about the same for a similarly spec’d windows box. I’m not a fanboi, and don’t really care about the great divide. I use both Windows and Apple products. I have gotten beat up by both sides and the occasional open source fanatic...
45 posted on 04/20/2018 12:52:57 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: catnipman

I’ve heard they are rugged. Big and Ugly too, but there is plenty of room for ginormous battery(don’t know if they have one or not). If you had to go out and drive around Oil Wells, be a Cop, or a Game Warden, it would be tops.


46 posted on 04/20/2018 12:55:15 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Windows is a disaster. If I can run OSX on the Lenovo, maybe—otherwise, no.


47 posted on 04/20/2018 12:55:23 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: ThomasThomas

Yes.

The T/W/P series are usually maintenance friendly while X/Carbons are less so.

Unlike Apple, they give the public full disassembly instructions (aka Hardware Maintenance Manuals), parts access, and a very permissive warranty (non-Lenovo parts are fine if they don’t cause a defect).

An unintended side effect of such openness is creation of custom models. Some are just screen or CPU upgrades, while others refit newer generation mainboards to refresh older models - with Lenovo or self-made parts.

I own a couple of models that have been customized this way - one with a newer generation mainboard and another with an upgraded screen. They fit well enough to pass as stock.


48 posted on 04/20/2018 1:00:14 PM PDT by setha (Resume where Pershing left off.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I recently bought a new laptop, because my just 2-year old Lenovo laptop, which I purchased directly from the manufacturer, would start to randomly power off.

I’ll never buy another Lenovo laptop again.


49 posted on 04/20/2018 1:00:40 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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I still use my Win 7 Lenovo Thinkpad.

Me too. Nothing against Apple overall though, iphone still the best by far.

50 posted on 04/20/2018 1:02:13 PM PDT by eldoradude (Walk a mile in a man's shoes and he'll never catch you.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Just want to make sure this is clear: Apples suck.

I guess I will just keep using the one I have.


51 posted on 04/20/2018 1:04:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Sirius Lee

Is Harley/Triumph a thing? Harley/bmw maybe....but Triumph? Do they still make those? (Just kidding...I am a diehard BMW adventure bike guy.)


52 posted on 04/20/2018 1:07:55 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I go with Toshiba/HP. Does what I want it to do, runs the software I need, and dont have to deal with possible Chinese stealware. JMO.


53 posted on 04/20/2018 1:23:31 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Vermont Lt

Laptops, and Phones are at two ends of the spectrum.

Their Laptops are living off their Phone reputation. You get .75% of the equipment, at 150% the cost.


54 posted on 04/20/2018 1:30:53 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Da Coyote

Wife’s MacBook is on its last legs, we’re not sure what we are going to do.


55 posted on 04/20/2018 1:36:40 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
He doesn't give any reasons other than he doesn't lie the keyboard, USB-C, and that they are silver.

At home, I run Windows 10 Pro on an iMac using VMWare Fusion. It seems more stable in a virtual machine than on a dedicated computer.

Does anybody know of a good Windows 10 app or script to turn off all the spying at once?

56 posted on 04/20/2018 1:37:26 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Can someone recommend a decent desktop for under $200?


57 posted on 04/20/2018 1:37:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: bobcat62

I have windows 7 on mine and it works great for tying into different rtus and PLCs in the field. Scada, bristol, roclink, fischer etc. Battery seems to hold up for what I need.


58 posted on 04/20/2018 1:39:28 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Tom’s Hardware used to have unbiased reviews. After it was bought out, it will promote anyone who gives it advertising dollars. Even the reputable Anantech sold itself. There are still good review sites and more crop up occasionally. That is a topic for another thread. Apple laptops in seventh place? ROLF


59 posted on 04/20/2018 1:42:00 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Lenovo used to be IBM, before IBM wanted out of the desktop/laptop business.


60 posted on 04/20/2018 1:51:41 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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