Posted on 04/17/2018 7:54:08 PM PDT by luckystarmom
I’m considering filing for divorce. On the grounds of infidelity and betrayal — and I’m heartsick. Don’t get me wrong, I adore my husband. It’s my union with an intimate partner of more than three decades, the evangelical church, that’s in trouble.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
She is illogical. What Trump was seems very different from what Trump is.
I think she’s confused.
Just a couple of thoughts:
If Donald Trump is a mean-spirited bully in their opinion, wonder what their thoughts are about Simon Peter.
Her daughter equates a ‘guilty felon’ with the disenfranchised and imprisoned of Jesus’ day. Typical leftist not seeing the obvious.
Daughter also argues that Jesus ‘hung out’ with prostitutes and sinners. Well, He is God, and he also forgives those same sinners, and He is patient, desiring that none perish.
This includes Donald Trump - although they all seem to believe he’s excluded because of his past and his temper.
Following their children is what I see. A close friend told me she wasn’t as conservative as William Bennett. HA!I Love my friend but she wants to be accepted by her kids; one works for a think tank in D. C.and claims to not believe in God despite his Christian upbringing. The daughter is a Christian but had a PhD in History and was so offended by Trump and I guarantee she voted for the woman. I feel bad for my friend. I know some of her other friends are probly liberal too.
Yes. Complete Drivel. Consider this:
“The head of the Family Research Council suggested evangelicals should give Trump a “mulligan” for his sexual shenanigans.
Dallas Pastor Robert Jeffress, a spiritual adviser to Donald Trump, brushed off news of the president’s affair with porn star Stormy Daniels. “Evangelicals still believe in the commandment: Thou shalt not have sex with a porn star. However, whether this president violated that commandment or not is totally irrelevant to our support of him,” Jeffress said on Fox News.
But when I covered the President Bill Clinton scandal with Monica Lewinsky, the very pastors now defending Trump called for Clinton’s impeachment.”
No mention that Trump’s alleged behavior occured a decade *before* he was President, while President Clinton’s occurred in the Oval office, and involved his lying about it under oath.
Complete double standard and drivel.
Essentially, the author is saying all Republicans must be saints of extraordinary character, and can be attacked for the slightest sin, while Democrat candidates need have no character at all.
From the article, Peggy joined the church for philosophical reasons. She might have a different take on issues if it was for salvation.
yeh, leftie hogwash. drivel. Her kids are sentimentalist, FEELINGS-oriented. And so is she. Bye bye.
It’s a good idea for her to leave the church physically. She has already left it mentally and spiritually. No point continuing the hypocrisy.
She is caught up in matters of this world and places zero value on the next world, the spiritual world, and the true Biblical Jesus. She has made up her own Jesus, who she likes better than the one in the Bible. This new fictional Jesus lines up with all of her social views and never says anything harsh.
She no longer has to worry about her children. Everybody’s fine. Whatever they want to believe is good, and God will surely bless them for it.
So, what should we do on Sundays from now on?
WHOO HOO! What YOU said!
The author was bitten by the Social Justice bug.
Yes, evangelical preachers are wrong to get giddy about Trump the adulterer. John the Baptist condemned Herod for his adulterous relationship with his sister in law.
But the choice was not for Trump the righteous among evangelicals. The choice was for Trump the flawed v. Hillary the socialist.
The Bible supports divorce in the case of adultery. So what's her problem?
Good quote. Flannery always sort of grossed me out, but I should reread.
My daughter goes to Bama! I love this story.
Back at the station, when all the film was being prepared for the evening news, a very interesting thing happened. They put the film on a continuous loop while they were deciding what to keep and what to cut. Everyone, pro-life and pro-choice viewed it and to a person were shocked to the core at what they saw to the point where the entire room got into an uproar - all against abortion.
The broadcast brought awareness about abortion in Dallas. A city law was passed that required abortion clinics to not put the babies in the trash. The 900 babies were honored and buried in a Catholic cemetery.
Peggy did a great job with the story.
Seems she has liberal kids who seems to spout liberal lies such as that evangelical spurn humanitarian work, unlike liberals, when in reality they are foremost providers of i t, along with some evangelism, which libs do not believe in
In South Chicago, I drove into a virtual war zone to watch my youngest daughter teach special ed to third graders at risk of being shot on their way home from school. "Can't you teach in a safer neighborhood?" I pled with her. "But Mom," she said, "If we're the hands and feet of Jesus -- like you taught us -- this is where we need to be."
And then they confusing the Lord's mercy to the penitent as seeing criminals as victims, and thus present Jesus as being like them:
I went to the federal courthouse to watch my daughter, a public defender, fight for a fair sentence for a guilty felon in shackles.
"Why are you defending the bad guys," I queried her. "Don't you think Jesus would have been a prosecutor?" "Are you kidding, Mom? He hung out with prostitutes and sinners. He's for the disenfranchised and powerless. If I'm going to follow Jesus, I follow him into the prisons."
As if evangelicals are not often victims of unjust prosecution but who are very active visiting those in prison.
And they must imagine the Lord Jesus as choosing female apostles, and confuse outward form of overall dying churches for substance:
When my two daughters broke with the evangelical megachurch that helped raise them, one stepped into an Episcopalian congregation, wooed by the beauty of its liturgy; the other bonded with Methodists, who allow women to preach and have a long history of social activism.
We seem to have gotten it backwards. Instead of making our mission to serve and protect the most vulnerable, the church now seems desperate to BE served and protected. Trump's promise to protect evangelicals is so delicious and tempting that, like Adam and Eve, my sisters and brothers have reached for an apple that could lead to their undoing.
Which is more deception, since it is evangelicals who are the most committed and active in serving others, and protecting the most vulnerable - whom her liberal friends kill in the womb or in hospital beds - and minister to the most vulnerable (who, once born, are mostly in other counties), but as her own testimony at ABC affirms, are marginalized and maligned and attacked for not being politically correct.
Thus it is no wonder they stand behind a non-Christian president who refuses to be politically correct, and instead actually is the most, if hardly wholly, pro evangelical president, which a VP who is, and thus is an assent to help serve and protect the most vulnerable.
The problem is however, that all too few evangelicals are as active as they should be in so doing, but which is just what liberals hope they do not become!
A friend I respected posted this on Facebook, and I was pretty offended by it for a lot of reasons. Of course, I got bashed for saying I did like the article and I would never leave a church because of a pastors endorsing a candidate.
I guess she would be a CINO. The gospel is NOT that Jesus is “A” God who became a man and laid down his life so we could do the same. Be came to be the Saviour of a dammed world..which is constantly dying. His life was filled with fulfilled prophesies from Hebrew prophets.He rose from the dead, as proof of his power and authority to save the world...funny how she left that out.Believing in the resurrection of Christ may lead to sacrificial service...but he came to saved dying and doomed man(person?)kind.
Matthew 7:22-23 is for her and her family (and me also) to read.
Her piece is a sad expose of her ignorance of what she claimed to “believe” in.
I did not like the article. I wish I could edit posts afterward.
trying to divide and conquer evangelicals is also a tactic of the globull warming crowd -
VIDEO: 13 April: Guardian: Charlie Phillips: The Climate and the Cross: evangelical Christians debate climate change
The latest Guardian documentary asks whether a group of Christian Americans might offer salvation for the country’s attitude towards climate change
A new Guardian documentary, The Climate and the Cross, explores a battle among US evangelicals over whether climate change is real and a call to protect the Earth – the work of God, and therefore to be welcomed – or does not exist...
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/13/climate-and-cross-evangelical-christians-debate-change
this is about the above documentary:
October 2017: LancasterOnline: The Rev. JerryLee Miller’s activism is part of a documentary about how faith informs climate concerns
by EARLE CORNELIUS
In 2011, Miller’s interest in climate change was aroused after listening to climate scientist and NASA researcher Jim Hansen explain how extracting oil from Canada’s tar sands would have a disastrous impact on Earth’s climate.
“That really struck me,” he said.
It led him to Washington, D.C., where he was arrested while protesting the XL pipeline....
“I found it to be liberating,” he said. He founded the Lancaster chapter of the Citizens’ Climate Lobby and began chartering buses to attend climate protests in Washington and New York...
Citizens’ Climate Lobby has endorsed a carbon fee and dividend policy that Regional Economic Modeling Inc., an economic forecasting and policy analysis think-tank, said could create as many as 2 million jobs in the first 10 years.
Smucker, he said, asked for a copy of the study. He added that senior Republican leaders, including George P. Shultz and James Baker, who served under Republican presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, have proposed similar legislation as part of the international Climate Leadership Council.
Those people, he said, have a lot of credibility on the Republican side of the political aisle...
https://lancasteronline.com/features/faith_values/the-rev-jerrylee-miller-s-activism-is-part-of-a/article_7b12e850-aad2-11e7-bd3d-db4b9b09174b.html
Pretty damned hubris of her to challenge the will of God
People like this brings to mind what Flannery OConner said that “In the absence of faith, we govern by tenderness. And tenderness leads to the gas chamber.”
Wow. Great quote, thanks.
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