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To: Fred Nerks

One weekend I invited Barack to meet my grandparents, Elizabeth and William Lytton Payne...

William Lytton Payne 1904-1996 was a 4th cousin of Charles Thomas Payne 1861-1940, father of Rolla, father of Madelyn Payne Dunham.

156 posted on 05/02/2018 9:06:41 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)

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To: Fred Nerks

and Elizabeth (Caraman) Payne was a Turkish immigrant.

https://books.google.com/books/about/Daughter_of_the_Euphrates.html?id=bdFtAAAAMAAJ

157 posted on 05/02/2018 9:15:58 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)

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To: Brown Deer

William Lytton Payne 1904-1996 was a 4th cousin of Charles Thomas Payne 1861-1940, father of Rolla, father of Madelyn Payne Dunham.

So the brother of Madelyn was named after him? Charles T Payne, the Deputy Director of the University of Chicago Library...and his wife Melanie...small world.

162 posted on 05/03/2018 3:44:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)

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To: Brown Deer

1. One weekend “I” invited Barack to meet my grandparents, Elizabeth and William Lytton Payne...

Who is the “I”... Boerner?

They both just happened to be related? Paynes would be Great Aunt & Great Uncle?

And neither knew of one another previously and both just happened to transfer from Occi to Columbia college at the same time?

163 posted on 05/04/2018 12:52:38 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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