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A new bill would make it illegal for NYC bosses to contact employees after work hours
Time Out New York ^ | Thursday March 22 2018, 2:07pm | Clayton Guse

Posted on 03/24/2018 9:54:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: o-n-money

Big business has been leaving for years. This will just speed up the bugout.


21 posted on 03/24/2018 10:59:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

My last job paid me for 4 hours for the call in even it only took 15 minutes to fix the problem.


22 posted on 03/24/2018 11:03:30 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Keyhopper

My husband and I are employed by our church, not ministerial and hourly. Since our micromanaging boss/pastor is such a jerk we call such phone calls harassment and charge “harassment pay.” Clock starts running when we answer.

It became difficult to remember that we were working for Jesus...ultimately.


23 posted on 03/24/2018 11:06:14 AM PDT by madison10 (Pray for President Trump.)
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To: exDemMom

“labor law already prohibits employers from requiring employees to conduct work-related activity when they are off-duty”
Maybe for some, but certainly not for most salaried jobs - never off duty.


24 posted on 03/24/2018 11:08:12 AM PDT by Glenmore
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To: Olog-hai
Several years ago, my company was involved in a lawsuit because managers would email their employees after work. Petty kind of stuff, such as where they wanted their employees to start the next day (we have field technicians that are based out of their houses) or communicating other general information for their teams. We weren't asking them to open Excel and crunch spreadsheets or anything like that.

But some of the employees got "stressed out" that their personal time was getting infringed on. Mind you, they were getting these emails mostly on company owned devices. So they were surfing the web on OUR device and a boss from their email came in. Oh, the humanity!

Yes, a class action lawsuit was brought to bear. On a national basis. We settled out of court. The lawyers made millions. The employees got checks averaging a few hundred dollars.

The settlement was so absurd that during snowstorms, we weren't allowed to notify them by email that the office was closed if it was not during business hours. We ended up setting up phone numbers for them to call where they could get announcements like that without us being accused of violating their time.

We then set up our network so that hourly employees could no longer log into the network after hours with their devices unless we authorized them for overtime and issued them a special password. In fact, they weren't allowed to use company devices at all after hours so many of them ended up having to purchase their own laptops and cell phones for personal use - where before, we did not mind them using our company devices for personal use (so they saved a lot of money that way).

Just goes to show that certain people can't have nice things.

Another effect of this is that we are now hiring our management from the outside. We used to develop managers from within but the employees are so hamstrung with regard to what they can do after hours that all they can do is do their regular jobs and punch out at 5 - just like the worker drones that they now are.

25 posted on 03/24/2018 11:10:35 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Retired Chemist
Yep.

You may get called in and yes, it can be annoying at times but you get well compensated for it.

I once earned a week of vacation time in a month when we were installing a new time system.

Of course now days the boss calls me in at all times of the day or night when there is a problem and the cheapskate doesn't even give me a cup of coffee. Such are the joys of being the owner.

26 posted on 03/24/2018 11:15:07 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Being the OWNER” is a phrase that has ramifications unknown to the vast majority of the world.
YOU are on duty 24/7/365 whether you like it or not. Your hours are not counted, your worries are your own, a single weather “incident” can ruin a season or even the business.
You have no “perks’ and get no consideration. Poor baby!!
As for me, each morning, I tell my “boss” off and call him every bad name I learned in the Navy..all the while shaving.
HE is a real stinker.


27 posted on 03/24/2018 11:32:25 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Our company moved to a new location over the Thanksgiving weekend and they wanted my lab up and running by Monday so I worked long hours to get it done. They even brought in Thanksgiving meals for us. I succeeded in getting the lab up and running and received a hefty bonus from the CEO.


28 posted on 03/24/2018 11:35:51 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Glenmore

If the employee is FLSA non-exempt, then the employer must pay or compensate any time worked outside of duty hours. Exempt employees must be compensated, not paid. And the employee can refuse to work when off-duty.

Where I work, the issue is that many employees work extra time and we are trying to minimize that activity. I get talked to also, because I don’t want to leave work until my work is done. I don’t care, I’m on a salary.


29 posted on 03/24/2018 11:38:43 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The end of the era for salaried employee...

Voters in NYC better enjoy “punching a clock” and with respect to a lackadaisical work ethic, I would predict tumbling paycheck totals as well.


30 posted on 03/24/2018 11:43:43 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, there goes New York. Let’s see how they feel when there’s a huge catastrophe and they need more FD and PD.


31 posted on 03/24/2018 11:43:47 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: mewzilla

Worked in Manhattan for almost 40 yrs. My job is in Charlotte, NC now.


32 posted on 03/24/2018 11:47:42 AM PDT by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And worse yet the example talked about email. The employee can choose to read or act on the email — or not. If the phone is on silent the email will not disrupt anyone...


33 posted on 03/24/2018 11:52:19 AM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: exDemMom

I am in management for my group that staffs a 24/7 hospital. I can and do get called with issues 24/7 including 3 am and holidays. I get a management stipend and this is presumed part of my job. If ondont like it I can always resign from manacement

If I have a shift uncovered by an emergency I can and do contact my staff at home by text email phone or any other way I can get a hold of them. They have caller ID and can choose not to answer. Part of being a professional is taking care of your workplace and that sometimes means getting contacted outside your normal work hours Don’t like it? Find another job or profession
And by the way I have docs that work only night shifts. Does that mean I can only email them overnight and not during the day? Absurd law.


34 posted on 03/24/2018 12:03:09 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Olog-hai

Words fail me. Did they put Hogg in charge?

In my first 30 years I worked 15 years of overtime - unpaid. Don’t regret a minute of it. And, as a result my co-workers, management, and customers knew they could depend on me, and I would never leave a crucial issue un-resolved just because it was 5 o’clock. And my successful career has lasted 50 years and counting. And, I always knew I had the option to resign and seek employment elsewhere. And all the people who left when they could have stayed to resolve the problems and meet the deadlines wondered why I got the nicer office and the better raises/promotions.

Sounds like typical leftist & European Onion B/S.


35 posted on 03/24/2018 12:48:38 PM PDT by Thom Pain (The purpose of the U.S. Constitution is to protect us from our Government)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
And why are bosses calling? If they are calling to see if you can cover another shift at work, for example, then you will be paid, possibly overtime pay, to cover the shift.

Being called to work an additional shift is only one possibility.

The boss might also be calling, e.g., to find out how to convert a Microsoft Word file into a PDF... or because he needs you to explain to him how to create a Table of Contents... or because he can't figure out how to turn off the spellcheck, or create a header in a PowerPoint, etc.

I had a boss like that once... Was the most-inept fellow with software you could imagine... And was always very apologetic... "Really, it will take only a minute!"... But, of course, it took much longer than a minute...

Regards,

36 posted on 03/24/2018 1:24:50 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Olog-hai

EVERY business in the USA is over-regulated already.

I started full time work when I was 17 & I am now 78. I have been self- employed since 1980 & still have 2 bookkeeping clients.

I have made calls & received calls ‘after work hours’. NEVER was offended. There can be any number of reasons why a person might need to contact you.

With all the focus on “GLOBAL ECONOMY” action, anything could happen elsewhere in the world that would require your boss to reach you.

This isn’t an issue for NYC or any other location to administer. It is between the boss & his employees.

Would they also apply such a rule to all police-firemen-and emergency personnel if another 9-11 attack occurred? OF COURSE NOT. Get the H out of MY business & other businesses.

IF an ‘employee’ doesn’t like being contacted ‘after hours’-—QUIT THE JOB.


37 posted on 03/24/2018 1:46:58 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Olog-hai

Are they hourly or salaried?

If hourly, they should get paid for the bother.


38 posted on 03/24/2018 2:24:03 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
As for me, each morning, I tell my “boss” off and call him every bad name I learned in the Navy..all the while shaving.
HE is a real stinker.

I owned my own company for just under ten years and I used to tell him all the time that he was a jerk and that he always overworked me without just compensation.

I am amazed he never fired me.

39 posted on 03/24/2018 2:48:39 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: alexander_busek
I had a boss like that once... Was the most-inept fellow with software you could imagine... And was always very apologetic... "Really, it will take only a minute!"... But, of course, it took much longer than a minute...

Even though I was an engineer in a scientific billet I was the most computer literate of all my coworkers. trying to get a computer retard through the steps to do almost anything, even if it was really simple, would take me an hour or more while on the phone.

Having to describe what "right click" meant would take two minutes or more before they would comprehend.

40 posted on 03/24/2018 2:56:12 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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