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Why Tennessee is fining Black women $100,000 for braiding hair
AOL NEWS ^ | 16 Mar 2018 | KIA MORGAN-SMITH

Posted on 03/17/2018 8:09:32 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: Diogenesis
Fifty plus years ago it was 1250 hours for a Managing Cosmetologist license, then went to 1500 hours..

I worked in the trade 42 years..and every year you were required to renew the license and have a ‘chest x-ray’ as well, then years later they required you to get additional education in the field, and the former POTUS cited the extra jobs they created in their terms!!!

I loved working and miss it even today..but so much has changed, it is not the same.

21 posted on 03/17/2018 8:44:23 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Three thousand hours of training to become a licensed beautician but only 500 hours to fly for an airline (airlines desperate for pilots that is).


22 posted on 03/17/2018 8:48:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Same with the funeral business. If it weren't for them you'd be able to shop for caskets at Costco.

I've always dreamed of opening a cremation business. I'd call it Kut-rate Krematorium. My goal was to be the Earl Scheib of the funeral business, but the entry barriers are just too steep.


 

23 posted on 03/17/2018 8:54:56 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (CNN is fake news.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Without those cosmetology regulations, ....why,..why,...why,...just everybody could cut hair....../s


24 posted on 03/17/2018 9:00:41 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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Every Friday I take my Wahl trimmer, put on the #4 guide and cut my hair and beard.
How long until they tell me I can’t do that anymore?
I haven’t been able to buy a decent haircut since a former navy man stopped cutting hair due to age and licensing issues, ceu, etc....
Keith did an awesome job.


25 posted on 03/17/2018 9:17:09 AM PDT by Tracker47
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To: Tennessee Conservative

I have heard of women having severe scalp problems and even hair falling out if the braiding is done wrong...maybe too tight? So yes, I can see why a license would be required.


26 posted on 03/17/2018 9:17:52 AM PDT by sheana
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Didn't this get decided at the Federal level 20 or 30 years ago?

Some guy braiding hair in DC, iirc.

No. I don't remember what the outcome was.

27 posted on 03/17/2018 9:26:14 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: lurk; DUMBGRUNT

Why not divide up the licenses; instead of having to take classes on everything from a to z, have separate certificates- one for nails, one for hair, etc.


28 posted on 03/17/2018 9:28:25 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: donna; All
"Cosmetology spreads a lot of disease. It's like having restaurants inspected for public health."

Thank you for that insight donna.

Thinking out loud ...

If I understand the referenced article correctly, please consider the following.

"One of her braiders reportedly did not have a government license to braid hair in her shop and that runs afoul of the Tennessee Board of Cosmetology and Barber Examiners policy [??? emphasis added]."

On one hand, the seemingly harsh fine seems to be based on constitutionally unchecked, 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state powers.

On the other hand, just as the corrupt federal Congress unconstitutionally front-ends “federal” regulatory powers with non-elected, regulation-making bureaucrats, many such regulations not only based on stolen state powers, but non-elected bureaucrat regulators wrongly nullifying the voting power of ordinary voters imo, consider this.

If Tennessee cosmetologists and barbers for example, cannot use their voting power to choose their regulators, then such agencies are wrongly nullifying voting power imo.

"In 2012, a Utah woman who braids hair to supplement her family’s income won a federal lawsuit against the state over its licensing process for her craft, arguing state regulations violated her right to earn a living [??? emphasis added].

The states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect earning a living as a right. Corrections, insights welcome.

A federal judge ruled that the state’s requirement that Jestina Clayton get a cosmetology license to braid hair was “unconstitutional and invalid” because regulations are irrelevant to Clayton’s profession [??? emphasis added]."

First, I don’t see where the feds have any jurisdiction in this case. And if such is the case, it can be argued that the federal judge was helping to expand the already unconstitutionally big federal government’s powers.

It can also be argued that the federal judge did not understand health concerns mentioned by donna which the states have the 10A-protected power to address.

Corrections, insights welcome.

29 posted on 03/17/2018 9:31:55 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Horse manure headline, Editor should be fired.


30 posted on 03/17/2018 9:33:57 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: donna
Cosmetology spreads a lot of disease.
My wife's hair dresser came down with the flu last month and from her sickbed called my wife to cancel the appointment for later that day.
My wife asks her if she can squeeze her in the next day. Oy.
31 posted on 03/17/2018 9:45:25 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Many licensing laws are nothing other than incumbent business protection rackets, intended to prevent or limit competition.

Do you care most that your plumber has a “license” or that your plumber does good work to the best standards at what you think is a good price?


32 posted on 03/17/2018 9:47:05 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Amendment10

If something is perceived as unjust enough, the system will attempt to work around it, even in an unorthodox manner.

Conservatives seem two faced to urge that everybody should earn a living and then stand for substantial irrelevant limitations on same. Yes, health regulations. Why does that need more school than to fly a plane which could fall on the public? Overdoing it tempts the invisible hand to operate in unorthodox ways.


33 posted on 03/17/2018 9:51:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: donna

“Cosmetology spreads a lot of disease. It’s like having restaurants inspected for public health.”

Inspections can be achieved without demands for a “license” and license fees (separate and additional business taxes) do not necessarily make a place safer.

In most major cities, every restaurant must have a license but seldom have the majority of restaurants had regular inspections. A “license” does not automatically mean either better or safer. YOU the customer are a better judge of that.


34 posted on 03/17/2018 9:52:10 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That would never happen in Sheila's TX district.

35 posted on 03/17/2018 9:52:27 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Diogenesis

“Flying time for license is a LOT LESS.”

I think you can get a commercial IFR license with a bare minimum of 200 hours. That’s not the “beginner” license.

Some unscrupulous Chinese restaurants require dishwashers to work 1000 free as “training”. Strangely, it’s mandatory when the government does it, illegal when the restaurant owner does it.


36 posted on 03/17/2018 9:54:23 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Wuli

This would be like waitresses having to go to school for 1000 hours. Surely that would cut down unsanitary food handling?

When my mother qualified to serve in a church kitchen the city had a 20 question quiz. That was it. Require a health knowledge test, fine. Pad it out with matters of taste, absurd!


37 posted on 03/17/2018 9:57:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: donna

Careful the Ron Paul folks will tell you that the state has no authority

You get sick? Sue the owners


38 posted on 03/17/2018 9:58:35 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: donna

I haven’t been to a salon in decades. Once since we’ve been married. Mr. b cuts my hair and I his. He and the dogs share clippers.


39 posted on 03/17/2018 9:59:25 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Nifster

This isn’t about all or even chiefly health education.


40 posted on 03/17/2018 10:00:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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