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To: fatima
I don't recall either of us posting what you say we did.

Both of us eagerly apologize for all unwarranted hurt, offense, insult, and the like--way back many years ago or whenever.

We would like you to understand and realize that Qx's opus was a sacrificial effort (of his FR membership) trying desperately to provoke Jim out of his increasingly self-defeating behavior toward major donors for relatively shallow reasons. Qx could not handle the thought that Jim was going to end up blowing himself and FR out of the water by such increasingly frequent self-defeating actions.

He knew that no one else would dare try to speak tough enough and provocatively to jar Jim out of that pattern of behavior. Qx realized it had a low probability of success but he felt that Jim was dear enough and FR crucial enough that Qx had to try, regardless of the costs to himself.

Qx knew that normal calm language, persuasions and pleas would have NO influence on Jim at all. That's why he had to come up with such a startling sort of verbal slap upside the head to try and get Jim to shake himself loose from the self-destructive rut he was in and try something different with regard to the big donors and to some degree--members in general.

Qx still greatly loves Jim and still prays for him persistently. He realizes (and realized beforehand) that probably few to no one on FR would understand why he did what he did. Thankfully, God knows. He is grieved that the FREEPATHONS take almost the whole 3 months now. That's sad for Jim and for FR.

He has prayed and racked his brain to try and come up with some suggestions as a way out of that current routine but he hasn't come up with anything.

Don't know what else I can add. Both of us want relationships that are cleared and forgiven and forgiving between us and everyone--whether either side is guilty of whatever or not.

WE are both much more mellow and humbled from 15-20 years ago. We have never claimed to be flawless or perfect or saintly. But we have also not been near as evil and ugly as some have made us out to be.

1,020 posted on 02/12/2018 8:48:00 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

I have no idea why you were banned but the owner did it not me.You said I lied .Then later you said to forgive you.You never asked for forgiveness .I didn’t ping you.I thank you for your honesty with your story but sorry is a nice word.


1,035 posted on 02/12/2018 9:02:36 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: JockoManning

I accept your apology.((((Hugs))))


1,037 posted on 02/12/2018 9:04:26 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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