[metmom]

It applies to both. I’m not denying that.

I’m objecting to men blaming women for the condition men are in today. Men are supposed to be the leaders and set the example. What we are seeing today is what happens when men abdicate that role.

It seems as a rule most young people today are shallow as a puddle. Gone is common courtesy, chivalry, altruism, and other positive character qualities. It’s no wonder relationships don’t work anymore when everyone is out for number one.

[mad_as_he$$]

“Men are supposed to be the leaders and set the example.”

Thirty years of feminization and being raised by man hating women has turned most men into pansies. Schools didn’t help. Women got what they(well the vocal ones) wanted and now it sucks for them. Actually I am sad for society but these whiny women should ask their mothers what they did to “men” and why.

[grey_whiskers]

As Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) once quipped, judging by its effects, the entire feminist movement seems to have been designed by horny teenage boys.

But women didn't have to fall for it: except they tend to be herd creatures.