Posted on 08/24/2017 7:43:13 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Because it’s inane.
What’s inane is your answer to the question!
Hey Lonepalm, it is good to hear from someone with experience on this! I’ve only looked up what officials have reported on the situation, as I have no training in this field. Even the report I found was only a research group speculating... I can’t find any official government report.
As for common sense, something doesn’t look right in that video. Such as the large boat being sucked into the small boat? The angle of turning too? It certainly makes me scratch my head and I see with your reply, that I was correct in wondering.
The article is built on false premises.
It’s titled “Video Of Cargo Ship Practicing Ramming Technique Used Against Ships” - reality is it happened years ago and has nothing to do with practicing ramming ships. The collision was caused by ships passing too close to one another. Asking “how time of the posting makes the video irrelevant” is inane because it makes no difference, you may have well asked if the photographer was left handed or right, it makes no difference.
Yeah, try it on your own boat sometime. Even cruise ships get twitchy when we get too close.
Yes, with all the talk of short watch rotations, the fact the every sailor has specific job (Rating - MOS to other branches) is often lost in those discussions. Depending on your Rating and the manning level of your particular division, you had at least an 8 hour job plus sometimes a watch. It varied according to department and division. The worse hours were in the Aviation Department.
As an ABF (Fuels Division), I remember working 16 hours during flight operations. Off for about 4 hours to chit,chower,chave and then have a watch from midnight to 4AM. Some more shuteye if you can it underway on a large metal can, and back to either flight ops or working on our JP-5 fuel systems, which were from flight deck to the bottom for the pumping station equipment.
I can't count the number baloney/cheese sandwiches I ate on the flight deck, not to mention the times having to pee over the side.
Plus, my first ship deployment (WesPac) kept getting extend up to 10 months. Back in port for 6 months, and then back out for 9. Our only contact with family was through snail mail when we would get underway replenishment (unrep). There was no Internet, no cell phones, no computers, no satellite phones, nothing. It broke up more families than I can remember, including my own. After 3 years of shore duty in Spain, I went back to the pacific fleet and experienced the same thing. Got tired of the sea time and watching my rating close up and couldn't make Chief, quit after 11 years. I had intended to do at least 20 if a CPO.
All that said, I wasn't on the ground watching my buddies die in my arms or being blown apart. So, I give my most respect to grunt Marines and Army. Although did have a couple close calls at sea when Soviet subs got too close during the cold war. It was looking ugly.
Could be sea lane road rage.
In those tight passages ships are passing close to or paralleling each other anyway. It takes very little to simply turn the ship at the appropriate moment. The initiative is with the ramming vessel totally.
“I can’t count the number baloney/cheese sandwiches”
“Horsec*ck and cheese”.
Sometimes green eggs at midrats. And don’t forget the koolaid...with that light sheen of diesel.
Just like the coffee.
Man, those were some great days, those days at sea.
The initiative is with the ramming vessel totally.
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That may be so but after all this is a military vessel. Why do they not man battle stations and sink the SOB.
I understand that they were in crowded shipping channels.
This view shows commercial traffic but not military, but just look at the traffic (What is impressive is that each ship is identified):
USS John S. McCain Collision: AIS Animation Shows Tanker’s Track During Collision
The sea hours were hard for most departments. But then again it kinda made it go faster as you didn't have off time to dwell on home much.
I remember while deployed in the MED only making one call home that did not involve sitting at either the phone company or USO for up to 10 hours. In 1979 in Venice, Italy I walked into a phone booth and asked for the overseas operator and in a matter of 5 minutes was talking to my parents.
ExNewsExSpook the steering on a ship is usually powered by hydraulics moving the rudder or rudders. The bridge can be blown off and steering can still be done but orders must be given because it is far below decks. On most ships there is also Secondary Con or a back up Control Room for critical task. If the hydraulics in the steering gear room goes down it may take a few minutes to restore it depending on cause. I didn't work on that but guys in my division did. It was a 24/7 manned space by a watch at sea.
Just about any ship when you are navigating and steering you must take into account the needed space for your ship to maneuver and guesstimate the others as well as read their mind. On a carrier for example if you are at Flank Speed it can take a couple miles to stop. To do a 360 degree turn may take several miles as well. No ship turns on a dime.
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Ack, "midrats", so appropriately named. I don't remember green eggs, but do remember the koolaid tasting like fuel and the eggs being burnt. I hear nowadays, you can order a burger or steak in the chow line and have many more choices. Plus, they have soft drink and snack machines on the mess deck.
I take it you're a Shellback. That was a pain in the ass (literally with the paddles), but glad I experienced it. That framed document is center on my garage wall among other Navy memorabilia. I doubt the current PC Navy has the same initiation, if at all. Smack a woman sailor on the ass? Doubt it.
Question: Besides all the other humiliation and ass-whipping, did you have to suck the cherry out of the big fat lard laden King Neptune's belly button? That was the worse for me as he wiggled my head all around his belly. I think he had a thing against airdales being a deck department CPO. I was cool with all the other fraternity type nonsense, including crawling through the shoot of garbage, but that almost made me pull away and lose my Shellback status. The prick actually made me swallow that nasty cherry after all those before me were allowed to spit out on his belly. Yes, great times!
Next WesPac, it was my turn for the pollywogs. Pay back is a MoFo.
Maybe not on a dime, but my last ship (Frigate) could turn on a quarter. Ha. But then we would be almost at the point of capsizing. Of course we wouldn't do that in heavy seas while in the trough.
Interesting experience: while on that Frigate we lost the boiler room power and the emergency diesel wouldn't come on line. We were in heavy seas, and of course with out power we drifted into the trough. Not good. I remember the XO hustling down to the engine room in a semi-panic. Everything was flying everywhere and I had to literally brace myself on the deck of my small office cubicle to keep from bouncing off the bulkheads. My typewriter hit me upside the head. No lasting damage, but a little blood and a big ouch.
Those are the experiences that make a sailor salty. Wish these snowflakes could experience that kind of moment. They may think twice what they're supposedly protesting against.
"Video Of Cargo Ship Practicing Ramming Technique Used Against Ships"
There is NO video of cargo ship practicing ramming technique used against ships.
FAKE NEWS AGAIN!
That’s not an argument with no links.
Nice try....
Oh yeah because it’s time issue right??? Haha!
S.M.H.
By what you wrote I know you did not watch the videos.
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