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The F-22 Raptor's Replacement Is Starting to Take Shape
Popular Mechanics ^ | August 23, 2017 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 08/23/2017 5:06:13 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: Jet Jaguar

“The number one rule of Italian driving: what’s behind me is not important”.


21 posted on 08/23/2017 7:44:32 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Even our drones have human pilots


22 posted on 08/23/2017 8:08:28 PM PDT by JP1201
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I have to agree with you on this one. With the current and future technology, why would we continue to develop manned combat aircraft?


23 posted on 08/23/2017 9:05:12 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: EveningStar
'Air Force Drones: Are Fighter Pilots Obsolete?' ABC News

"The era of dogfighting is largely over," Justin Bronk, a research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, told the BBC.
'Dogfight Over Syria: US Fighter Shoots Down Russian-Built Warplane,' June 19, 2017.

"Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value." Marshal Ferdinand Foch. July 23, 1960, France launches its second aircraft carrier, ironically named the Foch.

24 posted on 08/23/2017 9:11:38 PM PDT by Daaave ("You Nexus huh? I design your eyes.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Of the planned 1500, only three will be built: one combat ready, one in the shop, and one for parts. The day before the last one is rolls off the line, some democrat will add an amendment forbidding export; the day after that the plant will be shuttered and the tools broken up and melted. The media will report a total waste of money by Republicans since negotiations are so much cheaper ... as is surrender.


25 posted on 08/24/2017 2:01:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Perfect...forgot those “little” details.


26 posted on 08/24/2017 2:27:21 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: wjcsux

Well, for starters, control lag. Current drones do not go into combat automated - they’re really remotely piloted vehicles and there is a lightspeed delay control lag. Every control input by the remote pilot will have at *least* .25 of a second added before the drone can begin implement the command. .25 of a second is the difference between survival and a dead aircraft.

They also require good telemetry links. You cannot fly a drone into heavy jamming and still have it remain effective.


27 posted on 08/24/2017 3:51:48 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: wastedyears

Because you have to start thinking about and planning these things BEFORE your current tech is out of date.

The pipeline is (ideally) that you have something solid in service, something better being tested, something better than that on the drawing board, and something really far out in the deep black back rooms of R&D.


28 posted on 08/24/2017 9:30:35 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Sequoyah101

“If procurement had been as good in WWII”

In WW2 we had many DOZENS of aircraft in development at the same time. The majority of the designs FAILED and were never built. Comparing the complexity of ANY WW2 aircraft to a modern’ fighter is like comparing a Sopwith camel do the space shuttle.


29 posted on 08/24/2017 9:34:34 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Snickering Hound

“The last generation of manned combat aircraft is already here.”

Nope. There will have to be manned aircraft at the scene for situational awareness, to give the drones at least high-level commands. Radio comms can be jammed or disrupted.


30 posted on 08/24/2017 11:15:09 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“I know nothing about military matters, but for some reason I think the thousands of unmanned drone aircraft of the future that could be developed and purchased for the cost of one of these might be more effective.”

That’s not the ratio. Consider that both the range and payload of any aircraft (drone or not) vary with the size of the aircraft. Small drones won’t be able to drop 2,000 lb. bombs, nor will they be able to fly all that far.


31 posted on 08/24/2017 11:17:48 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: SpirituTuo

Yes but 200 drones with AMRAAM’s have a quality of their own.


32 posted on 08/24/2017 11:21:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

There is a certain truth to that. However, 200 targets are required, and it is hard for drones today, to take advantage of targets of opportunity, as their visual sensor window is very narrow.


33 posted on 08/24/2017 5:34:32 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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