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1 posted on 08/12/2017 8:00:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I need only 1 for my boner.


2 posted on 08/12/2017 8:07:39 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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Question Jorge.


3 posted on 08/12/2017 8:08:19 PM PDT by PGalt
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Patients get symptoms treated one by one, or disease by disease cumulatively until they’re on 40 meds and a complete zombie, without anybody even recognizing what has happened. Sad.
Then guess what happens when they get an acute sickness on top of all that - they nearly die.


4 posted on 08/12/2017 8:08:24 PM PDT by GnuThere
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Rx drugs are government approved and doctor recommended!


5 posted on 08/12/2017 8:09:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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Opioids cost me my 20 year marriage.

But, who cares about a,’minor statistic’ like me when there is MONEY to be made by Big Pharma?


6 posted on 08/12/2017 8:09:36 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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One bourbon, one scotch and one beer.

For those with real skills in pills, only these will do...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPNrTBZTJ5U


9 posted on 08/12/2017 8:17:52 PM PDT by soycd
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I stopped taking over half of the meds I was. 9 different ones now down to 4.

Feel better than I have in years.

Told my Dr., so he had me go a couple more months and then did labs. Only one of them that I had dropped was necessary for me to go back on. Me no want another bout of gout. Once was enough.

Cut my BP med in half, stays 110/70. Very erratic If I take none.

Still take my blood thinners, already had one stroke, don’t want another.

Neuropathy keeps me on gabapentin or I can’t sleep.

Ironically, losing 70 pounds from having an enterovirus a couple years certainly helped my overall health.


10 posted on 08/12/2017 8:18:34 PM PDT by digger48
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Kaiser HMO is guilty (IMO) of prescribing drugs just about every time I go in.. Mostly trun them down.

Have wondered if this is some sort of routine their lawyers tell them to pull, in order to protect them if something bad happens.

In court, they can say "we prescribed medication" as protection.

12 posted on 08/12/2017 8:29:02 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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I was taking a statin and a blood pressure med for years. They are basically free at Costco as generics. Cost is not the issue, the issue is that I no longer be on systemic agents.

So I cut the blood pressure med by 50%. BP stays 125/80 or so.

I completely cut out the statin and yes the LDL cholesterol spiked to 165. However, total cholesterol is only 249 so the total to HDL ratio is 3.5 or an implied less than 50% than average risk of heart attack.

Whether a systemic statin is worse than a moderately elevated LDL is the question.

Decisions.


13 posted on 08/12/2017 8:36:50 PM PDT by cicero2k
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Most medical care is symptom management. Real healthcare is proper diet and exercise.

56 yo physician, no meds, only vitamins and supplements.


15 posted on 08/12/2017 8:42:28 PM PDT by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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WTF Evuh...


21 posted on 08/12/2017 9:00:43 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Without chemicals, life itself would be impossible. On the other hand, last week, I had some directions that lasted almost four hours. I was pretty lost.

You'll have to forgive me, I'm not like the other boys.

;^)

22 posted on 08/12/2017 9:14:07 PM PDT by Gargantua (A posper a day keeps the blattines away! ;^)
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I have for decades told doctors I won’t take prescription meds. But occasionally ask them to review my nutritional supplements.

My big-deal doc in Seattle was respectful, humored me, said his wife took all those things too. She and I are still alive, but he, very sadly, died last year, all too young. Near the end at the NIH, where he was taking experimental meds, he was writing a blog on the health-giving benefits of good nutrition and nutritional supplements, and wishing he’d started before it was too late. Brings tears to my eyes; he was considered the best diagnostician in Seattle.

Now I have an ordinary doctor who reviewed my nutritional supplements six months ago, read off the conditions they improved from some online medical source. So, the medical profession does know the benefits of, and has access to information on natural health. BTW, I run into this doc occasionally at the gym. He’s in fabulous shape. He recommended more water for me while exercising, so now I sip water all day every day with a smidge of electrolytes. Somehow this gives me far more energy.

Since I started exercising 3 - 5x/week, my bp is normal. I was on the lowest dose of hydrochlorothiazide for about a month a few years ago, which brought bp back to normal, now I take one tiny tab every other day. It’s more than enough.

So very many horror stories about pharmaceutical drugs...I wish everyone would wise up about taking control of their health. HealthCare is up to me. What docs and insurance companies do should be renamed SickCare.

I say all this with the knowledge that one day my life may depend on pharmaceutical drugs and doctors and hospitals. But I’m trying my best to postpone that day, and feeling really good in the meantime. Everything works, nothing hurts.


24 posted on 08/12/2017 9:19:21 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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My dad is healthy and 84 years old. Sees his doc a couple times a year and is one no prescription drugs.


25 posted on 08/12/2017 9:34:13 PM PDT by umgud
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TV ads push prescription drugs 24/7. There’s a pill for everything and there’s pills for problems caused by taking pills.

People wonder why we have an opioid epidemic..


26 posted on 08/13/2017 5:10:19 AM PDT by maddog55 (After years of trying, you actually can't fix stupid.)
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Three problems I see.

One is the advertising on television of prescription meds for people to talk to their doctors about (push their doctors into prescribing)

The second is looking for meds for *stress* when instead people need to learn to deal with stress.

Third, the government keeps changing the criteria for high anything, cholesterol, blood pressure, whatever, and suddenly voila’, thousands more people have it and *need* meds to bring it down.


28 posted on 08/13/2017 5:45:06 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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IMO, there are several time-bombs lurking with the problem of opioids, and several posts on here hit the nail directly on the head.

Diana in Wisconsin

Opioids cost me my 20 year marriage. But, who cares about a,’minor statistic’ like me when there is MONEY to be made by Big Pharma?

nickcarraway

Rx drugs are government approved and doctor recommended! A lot of doctors only do what the drug reps tell them.

Digger48

I’ve known a couple of vets who almost died from all the meds they were getting from the VA because they were seeing so many different doctors. One was taking 32 different pills, the other over 20. Both of them were near invalids until someone got them off all of the medication. They had several more happy healthy years before cancer eventually got them.

One solution would be to have the doctors only prescribe 25% of the pills that the reps tell them to - that way the patient can be seen by the doc and any signs of addiction would hopefully be nipped in the bud. Many people will take all the drugs that the doc prescribed, regardless if they need them or not. We just found a bottle of some opioid, from 2009, that were given to my wife when she got a root canal. There were 30 pills prescribed and still in the bottle, the instructions to take one a day. Really? 30 pills for a f'in root canal - no wonder we are turning into a bunch of pansies. Why not 5? So who made the money on this one - drug makers, insurance and the doc.

I know I am going to get flamed for this one, but you have to admit that databases can be used for the overall good.

Another solution is to implement a database - which all the republicans are steadfastly against - that doctors and pharmacists would be able to cross reference when prescribing drugs for their patients who "drug shop", or that would have 2 different docs prescribing 2 different drugs that would counteract each other or even worse.

Third - always ask questions and ask for a second opinion. For some reason people think that doctors don't like questions, they love educated patients not ones who tell them how to do their jobs. My primary is a D.O., this guy is awesome, he always tries a non-prescription drug first. I only take 3 pills per day - 1 multivitamin and 2 glucosamine for joint pain due to arthritis. A specialist doc wanted me to take name branded drug that cost a few hundred per month.

30 posted on 08/13/2017 6:22:48 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Common sense can solve a lot of issues when applied properly)
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We are fed by a food industry that cares nothing about health and we have a health care industry that cares nothing about food.
31 posted on 08/13/2017 6:28:31 AM PDT by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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But the burning question is...what does Consumer Reports think of the new Maytag dishwasher?
32 posted on 08/13/2017 6:30:53 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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