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Shakespeare may have been gay, says artistic director of RSC [Royal Shakespeare Company] [ed]
UK Telegraph ^ | July 21, 2017 | Staff

Posted on 07/22/2017 2:28:27 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

What else can I say
Everyone is gay


61 posted on 07/22/2017 12:11:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Savage Beast

Why could Sonnet 27 not be about a woman?


62 posted on 07/22/2017 1:03:32 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Maybe I've been influenced by the suggestions that Shakespeare may have been bisexual, but I can't see it as a poem about a woman. I think it's about a fetish of some kind.

First of all, the general mood of the poem is one of ghastliness and horror. If he has a fixation on a woman, she's not a very attractive one.

As he is weary and tired, when his thought s turn to this person, a journey begins in his head and works his mind, as his weary limbs have been worked.

His thoughts of this person keep his drooping eyelids open wide looking on darkness which the blind do see. This is hardly gazing on someone or something pleasant and comforting. In fact, this person is like a jewel hung in ghastly night, which fascinates and horrifies him at the same time.

It seems to me that Shakespeare is describing a fixation that haunts and horrifies him but also gives him pleasure, like an addiction. If he's addicted to a woman, she must be a gorgon or something.

I don't know, but it seems more like a homosexual fetish than anything else, something to which he cannot keep his mind from going to but which horrifies him also. Drugs? Alcohol? I don't think so. I think it's some kind of fetish. And though he can't resist it, he also doesn't like it.

63 posted on 07/22/2017 1:46:56 PM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: onedoug

ping


64 posted on 07/22/2017 1:55:33 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Savage Beast

Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare%27s_sonnets#Fair_Youth

I guess you have to read it in context. I will keep an open mind.


65 posted on 07/22/2017 2:02:40 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: agere_contra

Don’t have much of a sense of humor, do you? Know anything about “Monty Python’’ I suppose? That was the “Bruce’’ reference. Jeez.


66 posted on 07/22/2017 2:22:30 PM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

OLIVER
Good Monsieur Charles, what’s the new news at the
new court?
CHARLES
There’s no news at the court, sir, but the old news.... —”As You Like It” I.1


67 posted on 07/22/2017 2:46:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: C19fan

Yes and Jesus was BLACK. These people never quit.


68 posted on 07/22/2017 2:54:11 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235 '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM... FLYING BRICK)
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To: mad_as_he$$

One sure sign of a playwright is how he’s drawn by the critics of his time, and Shakespeare was roundly criticized by the critics of his.

His work may well have been lost if not for the actors John Heminges and Henry Condell, who had known and worked with Shakespeare, and had prepared 36 of his plays for the First Folio edition, which was dedicated and embellished by two poems of the playwright Ben Johnson, who was certainly known to have existed, and in which Shakespeare’s name was mentioned in both.

Probably my favorite biography of him is “Will In The World: How Shakespeare Became Shakespeare” by Stephen Greenblatt (2004)


69 posted on 07/22/2017 3:23:07 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: katana

Caesar Biggus Dickus?


70 posted on 07/22/2017 8:46:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tumblindice

The man had extensive political and military experience across the breadth of cultures and territories that would someday be called Europe. Size is over rated. Maybe he was a cunning linguist?


71 posted on 07/22/2017 9:26:26 PM PDT by katana
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To: Tax-chick

That’s my assumption.


72 posted on 07/23/2017 8:03:10 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: C19fan

Have of all the dead throughout time may have been gay. Or maybe not.


73 posted on 07/23/2017 8:05:45 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: C19fan

Have = Half ...but you probably figured it out...carry on.


74 posted on 07/23/2017 8:07:08 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: C19fan

Captain Crunch may have been gay.


75 posted on 07/23/2017 8:09:18 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: JohnyBoy

Definitive post!


76 posted on 07/23/2017 8:16:25 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I thought it was! Maybe SB was showing how messed up mentally the director is.


77 posted on 07/23/2017 8:19:37 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

I’m open minded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet_27#Analysis

Analysis

Sonnet 27 is part of the Fair Youth sequence, in which the poet expresses his love towards another Man. Sonnet 27, when written using modern spelling, is Shakespeare’s only pangrammic sonnet. It forms a diptych with Sonnet 28 which continues it.

For another of Shakespeare’s sonnets dealing with night, sleep, and dreams see Sonnet 43.


78 posted on 07/23/2017 9:03:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: C19fan

Though Christopher Marlowe, now there was a flamer.


79 posted on 07/23/2017 12:45:50 PM PDT by onedoug ( KEK)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Since it’s Wikipedia’s “analysis”, I consider it worthless.


80 posted on 07/23/2017 2:10:52 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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