As a friend of Bill I have to agree and the exact group I was hinting at in my above post.
FOB also.
How many people have you seen that describe two three or more trips to very expensive rehab with no positive result other than meeting cool people?
These facilities only publish very meaningless “recovery” statistics based on short term abstinence. And, how many of their successes are people who attend AA following treatment but credit is claimed by the referring rehab center.
I don’t know a single person who went to rehab without AA and maintained sobriety. And, certanly not “recovery.”