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Bring Back the Draft? Your Thoughts!!
4/30/17 | hapnHal

Posted on 04/30/2017 8:56:49 PM PDT by hapnHal

Should we bring back the draft?

In the wake of another Memorial Day, when most Americans recognized their fallen veterans by staying home from the office, it’s worth taking a moment to consider a perennial question: Should the military draft return? Yes, argued Joseph Epstein in The Atlantic earlier this year. Epstein, a short story writer and former draftee who served in the Army from 1958 to 1960, opposes an all-volunteer force for several reasons: It’s unfair for a tiny percentage of Americans—less than one percent—to shoulder the burden of fighting wars; the American public isn’t knowledgeable enough on foreign policy; the draft could rehabilitate young criminal offenders; and, most of all, a draft would contribute to the “melting pot” that makes America great.


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To: hapnHal
Not just NO, but HELL NO; stupidest idea ( and a lefty one to boot ) to be brought up by anyone, right now !

This is NOT the old military and the rules have changed, to the point where, until President trump changes things, the military is just a "SOCIAL JUSTICE"/ACCEPT PERVERSION/WOMEN ARE THE SAME AS MEN indoctrination bastion, with far too many lefty hold overs in change, thanks to Obama.

21 posted on 04/30/2017 9:27:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: hapnHal
NO! In 1975, I saw personally the dregs that were still in service from the draft. One of the supervisors in my shop was busted in the barracks for selling drugs and porn from his room. He was a unkempt loser. We don't need that.

If there was a call to enlist, a new "Uncle Sam Want's You!" campaign there would be no need for a draft.

22 posted on 04/30/2017 9:30:58 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: laplata

Naah. I say hell yes. Blue states only. Affirmative action to LBGTQ I DONT HAVE A F’NCLUE applicants. Send them with pussy hats and masks. Make them wear body cams.

I would pay money to watch that show.


23 posted on 04/30/2017 9:34:10 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: hapnHal
Whatever you are drinking, smoking, injecting, ingesting, and'/or sniffing, is very powerful stuff.

The snowflakes will muster out in a week...tops.

The gangbangers won't follow orders and get into trouble. You want the Muslims and the Ms-13edrs in our military?

You want the dope addicts drafted too? *snicker*

How about the trannies?

THE MILITARY IS NOT A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT; AT LEAST IT SHOULDN'T BE ONE, BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT IT IS!

24 posted on 04/30/2017 9:34:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

See 23 hun.


25 posted on 04/30/2017 9:35:47 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: hapnHal

Excellent question. Excellent responses here.

No. Draft brings about a high percentage of lazy soldiers. Plus, the present voluntary military is tops in the world and has a waiting list.


26 posted on 04/30/2017 9:39:57 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: bboop

No. It wreaked destruction on this country to have the draft for Vietnam.


I saw it first hand -— up close and personal.


27 posted on 04/30/2017 9:41:33 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

A rational draft hat would preclude all the fears of being drafted would be a universal MALE draft to be automatic at age 18 or 17 if a high school graduate for 6 months of basic and infantry training with no assignment to actual duty. At the end of the 6 months the trainees would not be allowed to enlist in the regular military for a further 6 months. With that system the draft for actual service would not be necessary. The main resistance to the draft is young men who fear being shot at or who fear putting their college on hold and others getting an earlier start at careers. The universal training ends the fear-of-the-unknown factor. It is something all have experienced and it is not scary any more. If the nation is under attack there will be no lack of volunteers. And, we will have a much more mature, patriotic, responsible population of young men. No, women should not be drafted and should not be trained in battlefield arts unless there is a real prospect of massive invasion.


28 posted on 04/30/2017 9:44:42 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
That's STUPID!

There are some good kids/CONSERVATIVES in Blue States and so, your idea is patently ridiculous, punitive to those who don't deserve your smarmy, unhelpful suggestion. Besides which, there ARE the same kinds of garbage in Red States.

The Military is not and should NOT be a punishment sentence. Neither, can it, as it is now,reclaim/rehabilitate today's subhuman garbage.

29 posted on 04/30/2017 9:45:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: hapnHal

A rational draft that would preclude all the fears of being drafted would be a universal MALE draft to be automatic at age 18 or 17 if a high school graduate for 6 months of basic and infantry training with no assignment to actual duty. At the end of the 6 months the trainees would not be allowed to enlist in the regular military for a further 6 months. With that system the draft for actual service would not be necessary. The main resistance to the draft is young men who fear being shot at or who fear putting their college on hold and others getting an earlier start at careers. The universal training ends the fear-of-the-unknown factor. It is something all have experienced and it is not scary any more. If the nation is under attack there will be no lack of volunteers. And, we will have a much more mature, patriotic, responsible population of young men. No, women should not be drafted and should not be trained in battlefield arts unless there is a real prospect of massive invasion.


30 posted on 04/30/2017 9:46:17 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: hapnHal

Hell No.


31 posted on 04/30/2017 9:46:40 PM PDT by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: hapnHal

I agree. The struggle to accept and acclimate to some very clear standards will do the average young person a world of good. Too much of present day society is built around the presumed needs and expectations of the weakest or least qualified among us. Aim higher, stop being so comfortable with resentful envy of others achievements.

Being in the Armed Forces may offer a last chance for some young folks to learn about making a living in the coming age of robotics. They could study coding, or engineering if the aptitude is there. They could fill a billet in medical care, or radiology. All these occupations will continue to be in great demand. This provides an opportunity to learn a practical skill set before you’re fully responsible for bills.

It also gives you the chance to move out of the family home, if that is what’s wanted. I was very close to my family, still am, but I was ready to leave home as soon as I graduated High School.
Not everybody will receive a scholarship as I did, so they would benefit from a few years of service.


32 posted on 04/30/2017 9:50:22 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: arthurus

“If the nation is under attack there will be no lack of volunteers”.

I see your points but adamantly disagree with this one. Only about half would volunteer to help the country.


33 posted on 04/30/2017 9:52:00 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: arthurus
Oh...so you want MS 13 members, girls who think they are boys, boys who imagine that they are girls, but are still boys in EVERY single way, just regular gangbangers, and extreme Muslims to be drafted, for a short period of time AND the over protected, over coddled, social justice, Antifas, and babies still, at 17/18 too?

Today's military is a far cry from what it once was and so is boot camp!

34 posted on 04/30/2017 9:52:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: hapnHal
the draft could rehabilitate young criminal offenders;

I have a little first hand knowledge about that. In the period where they were shifting to all volunteer, there were a lot of judges that were telling 'youthful offenders' "Enlist or go to jail." thinking that a drill sergeant would 'straighten them out. But in reality, where 80% of regular draftees were useless or worse, maybe one out of ten 'youthful offenders' actually 'straightened themselves' out.

We pretty much learned to hate those judges for pushing off their undesirables on us.

35 posted on 04/30/2017 9:53:48 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

It would be fun to watch.


36 posted on 04/30/2017 9:55:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: hapnHal

Nope


37 posted on 04/30/2017 9:55:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: LegendHasIt

I saw it first hand, too.


38 posted on 04/30/2017 9:57:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Why burden the military with it?
Don’t they gave enough to do without having to reform a bunch of special snowflakes?

I have to agree, they would get overwhelmed with duds.


39 posted on 04/30/2017 10:08:23 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: LegendHasIt

agree


40 posted on 04/30/2017 10:10:43 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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