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Aaron Hernandez’s Murder Conviction Will Be Voided After Suicide Thanks to Obscure State Law
People ^ | April 20, 2017 | Adam Carlson

Posted on 04/20/2017 3:15:04 PM PDT by Trump20162020

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To: Go Gordon

He still had guaranteed money on his $40 million, 5 year contract, signed in 2012.

Typically, the first two years of the contract, plus the signing bonus (which is often spread out over several years), are guaranteed.

So, he is owed at least for 2013, plus a $3.25 million bonus due in 2014, plus the Patriots tried to recoup all the upfront bonus money they gave him in 2012, but I don’t know if they got it.

NFL guaranteed money means you get paid - injured, released, dead, or alive.

After his murder conviction, his entire contract was voided for “conduct detrimental.”

As of today, his conviction was voided, so there was no “conduct detrimental.”


21 posted on 04/20/2017 4:59:18 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: cynwoody
You may recall another famous football player, who was famous for running through airports and who was acquitted of a double murder, was nevertheless successfully sued civilly for the crime for which he walked.

He's still alive. Hernandez isn't, and he was still in the appeals stage. Big difference.

22 posted on 04/20/2017 5:01:23 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: PJBankard
I still disagree.

If the state appeal overturned the conviction, which means a new trial most of the time, and Hernandez died the next day, are you saying Hernandez is still guilty?

How is that possible since Hernandez is dead and can't be re-tried?

Or, if the state appeal confirms the guilty verdict, and Hernandez dies the next day, most likely his case would have gone to the federal level, which might have thrown out the conviction.

This the first time I've thought about this issue, but it looks to me like Hernandez has caught the game winning legal touchdown pass against the Patriots and against the people who might have sued him for civil damages.

23 posted on 04/20/2017 5:15:46 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Trump20162020

That obscure state law is actually a fairly well-established legal principle in (I think) every state and in federal court.


24 posted on 04/20/2017 5:18:24 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: Trump20162020

there is a simple solution to this.

the NFL could decide the AH’s money
does not count against the Pat’s salary cap


25 posted on 04/20/2017 6:00:26 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: zeestephen

When he was cut from the Patriots it wasn’t linked to his arrest. His contract was most likely not guaranteed (most in NFL aren’t). I doubt the veracity of the whole story


26 posted on 04/20/2017 6:11:03 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Fhios

I agree. The comparison to Ken Lay of Enron fame doesn’t wash. Ken Lay was never tried, hence the “innocent by death”


27 posted on 04/20/2017 6:14:48 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Trump20162020

“Anyone trying to launch a civil suit against his estate is screwed now. They can no longer point to a murder conviction.”


They have to prove that he was guilty in Civil Court first-—IIRC Nicole Brown Simpson’s family did that.

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28 posted on 04/20/2017 6:19:24 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Trump20162020

Boo! Bad idea; bad law. Is this mandatory?


29 posted on 04/20/2017 6:23:16 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Figment
Re: “I doubt the veracity of the whole story.”

It's easy to check.

There are at least 3 sports websites, including the NFL website, that give detailed numbers on all player contracts.

In 2012, Hernandez signed a 5 year contract extension. He was initially drafted in 2010.

In 2012, he got the largest bonus ever paid to a tight end at that time - $12.5 million.

In 2012, he got the second largest total contract ever paid to a tight end - $40 million.

Contract extensions and free agent contracts for the top 150 NFL players are always guaranteed for the first two years, plus the signing bonus.

Elite free agents, like Ndamukong Suh, get three years guaranteed. Older elite free agents, like Peyton Manning, got two years, but much higher guaranteed bonuses.

Re: “When he was cut from the Patriots it wasn’t linked to his arrest.”

Sorry, that's incorrect.

Hernandez had guaranteed money due in both 2013 and 2014.

The Patriots cut him for “detrimental conduct.”

30 posted on 04/20/2017 6:59:43 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Stop being silly. His conviction is not voided because he died. This is a floater probably by the Hernandez’s family/estate.


31 posted on 04/20/2017 7:41:59 PM PDT by Fhios
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To: adorno

It’s not unique to Mass and it’s not rare, it’s an established law of the common law system for Fs sake.


32 posted on 04/20/2017 8:10:38 PM PDT by The Cuban (again Freaking French illegal immigrabta,)
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To: Fhios
I should stop being silly?

I suggest you read the link.

The person who says that the conviction is void is Martin Healy, the chief legal counsel for the Massachusetts Bar Association.

33 posted on 04/20/2017 11:59:06 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: AlaskaErik
Big difference.

The "big difference" is criminal vs civil, "beyond a reasonable doubt" vs "preponderance of the evidence".

Hernandez not being convicted of murder has no bearing on whether his conduct against Odin Lloyd was tortious. His being not guilty doesn't mean he didn't kill Mr. Lloyd. That question is for a future civil jury to decide.

34 posted on 04/21/2017 12:47:02 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: zeestephen

Yea, well then he’s probably related to the family attorney. It’s just not going to happen.


35 posted on 04/21/2017 1:31:28 AM PDT by Fhios
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