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Homeowner’s son kills three would-be burglars with AR-15
NY Post ^ | 3/28/17 | Fox news

Posted on 03/28/2017 1:48:37 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

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To: 3boysdad
The sad part of this story is you can bet some lawyers are still going to make money of this swift act of justice.

No. I'm in Oklahoma. When the legislature passed the "stand your ground" law they also included no civil action allowed against the homeowner/person defending himself.

41 posted on 03/28/2017 5:35:05 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Pollster1
Muzzle energy determines how quickly the shot disables the thug or is fatal

Not according to the chart at your link.

42 posted on 03/28/2017 5:41:27 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: LouAvul

Can the home owner sue for damages and can the Defender sue for ammo costs? ;^}


43 posted on 03/28/2017 5:52:19 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Someone want to tell Piers Morgan that this is why we need large capacity mags?


44 posted on 03/28/2017 5:54:30 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: A. Morgan
No, the 21 year old female getaway driver.. I hope she hugged her 3 kids before she turned herself in.. cuz she just might not be coming back home.

Her kids may not be all that thrilled about the idea of getting any hugs from mom. I pity the poor Okl;ahoma taxpayer's who'll be feeding her.

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45 posted on 03/28/2017 6:02:58 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I hope they ain’t charging him!

they are probably charging the poor stupid girl that was the getaway driver with 3 counts of murder and 3 counts of robbery. some places can charge criminal accomplices with murder when their people die during a crime. her life just got a whole lot more interesting
46 posted on 03/28/2017 6:12:28 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: amigatec

I hope they lived long enough to think, “I can’t believe he shot me.”


47 posted on 03/28/2017 6:14:50 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Doogle

Thankfully everyone is safe.


48 posted on 03/28/2017 6:16:24 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
She looks white but her name is Elizabeth Marie Rodriguez. Raises all kinds of possibilities. I'm in Broken Arrow and frequently see homely white women with messycan men. But I haven't seen as many messycans since Trump took office.

Actually, now that you mention it, where's the guy that cuts my grass?

49 posted on 03/28/2017 6:25:25 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Pollster1

I agree with you completely. 4 well placed hits with a .22 LR will do a lot more damage that 4 misses with a .45.

That is why I love my Ruger MkI. I can keep it on target and put in group within in 1” at 10yds.

Oh, so by your statistics if I DO hit someone 4 times with a .22, do I have a 136% chance of it being fatal. I like the odds.


50 posted on 03/28/2017 6:30:49 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: LouAvul

The chart at my link doesn’t say how quickly they drop, just whether they are (eventually) disabled and whether they are (eventually) killed. I still like that chart a lot, but it’s not the whole story.

From what I have read, many people automatically drop when shot, unless they are really tough and well-trained. First, being shot hurts a lot. Second, you’re supposed to drop, since that’s what you see on TV, so that’s what they do. That’s why you get a fairly high “one shot stop” rate, regardless of caliber or where the hit occurs. A whole lot of people drop or run when they are shot.

Those who continue to fight after taking a hit are different (and much more likely to get shot again, and they are the ones where caliber matters). Some tough guys fight with a .22LR hole and bleed to death slowly, or run away and bleed to death several blocks away. Some barely have time to take one more swing or to run outside before they bleed to death quickly with a .50 cal or 12 gauge hole somewhere in the body. Whether they are disabled/killed quickly or slowly appears to come from the kinetic energy transferred and to some extent the size of the hole (plus shot placement, of course).


51 posted on 03/28/2017 6:31:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1
I simply responded to some absolute generalizations you made and pointed out that your chart doesn't support it. The 22 long rifle, for example, has very little energy at combat ranges yet has similar percentages for incapacitation and lethality as other, more powerful, cartridges.

There are a ton of other variables but your first statement isn't supported by your chart.

52 posted on 03/28/2017 6:38:37 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: LouAvul

Laying in the dude’s driveway...


53 posted on 03/28/2017 6:58:00 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: LouAvul

“She looks white ... “

She looks like indian mixed with underclass white trash — “mestizo”


54 posted on 03/28/2017 7:00:04 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: LouAvul

True.


55 posted on 03/28/2017 7:01:41 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: LouAvul
Ugly little fat troll. She looks as tall as she is wide. I'm in BA too.


56 posted on 03/28/2017 7:03:33 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: lajefa

Wow! That’s what that is? So that girl could or will be charged with 3 murders? Daaamn!


57 posted on 03/28/2017 2:52:19 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: super7man
Oh, so by your statistics if I DO hit someone 4 times with a .22, do I have a 136% chance of it being fatal. I like the odds.

In case you are wondering (or anyone else is), according to that table someone you hit with a .22 has a 34% chance of being killed by any one shot. That means a 66% chance of surviving the first shot. Or .66*.66 = 0.4356 or 44% chance of surviving two shots (assuming the damage from two non-fatal shots doesn't combine to make a fatal wound). Or 0.66*0.66*0.66 = 0.2875 or 29% of surviving three shots, and 0.66*0.66*0.66*0.66 = 0.19 or 19% to survive your four shots. That assumes you are an average shot among those who use a 22 for self-defense.

If someone is shooting you with a .22 and you survive one or two hits, it's time to get out of there if you can - before your luck changes.

58 posted on 03/28/2017 4:02:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: dp0622

I guess this incident proves that a 5.56mm weapon will work up close.Burned these 3 to the ground.


59 posted on 03/28/2017 4:35:25 PM PDT by Farmer Dean ("Do you want me to shoot,I'm rested.")
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