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Conservative Republicans are Today's Biggest Losers
Kinvig on Politics ^
| 3-24-17
| Cameron Kinvig
Posted on 03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT by ckinv368
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT
by
ckinv368
To: ckinv368
Conservative Republicans are Today’s Biggest Losers
Why? Because they didn’t want to sign off on a garbage bill?
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:08:19 PM PDT
by
boycott
To: ckinv368
To: ckinv368
100% backwards, they saved the day
To: ckinv368
There was no repeal, there was only rearranging of Obamacare.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:13:11 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
To: ckinv368
If this is losing, I’m happy to lose every day.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:13:50 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Purple: the color of sedition)
To: ckinv368
Concur; the obstructionist caucus gave the Democrats a victory over President Trump and he has to deal with them to get a deal, not the Republicans alone.
"While pointing fingers, conservative Republicans in Congress should look in the mirror. Maybe these Republicans meant well, in a naïve sort of way. After all, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona (a dentist) told The Washington Post that he came to Washington to do health care right. Rep. Louie Gohmert said that a no vote means we save Donald Trump from a Democratic majority in 2019. Others vehemently argue that Obamacare should be immediately repealed, but that Congress should give itself until midterms to pontificate over a replacement (all, while millions of Americans lose health coverage). Unfortunately, none of this is politically feasible. Was the American Health Care Act exactly what the Freedom Caucus wanted? No. Did it offer conservatives the best healthcare deal they may ever get? Probably. The time had come to pass a plan that could receive 216 votes in the House, and 51 in the Senate. Conservative Republicans blew it big time.
By comparison, President Trump is nothing if not pragmatic. In an interview with Robert Costa of The Washington Post, he argued that his next efforts at healthcare reform will garner bi-partisan support once Obamacare premiums exponentially increase, coverage options decrease, and the program implodes. This is good politics. But, a bi-partisan effort guarantees that the Freedom Caucus will be locked out of negotiations, with the bill too centrist for their taste. Trump said so himself. When asked whether a bi-partisan bill would free him from having to court those farthest to the Right, he replied a lot of people might say that, opining that such a possibility would end up with a better health-care plan. A great plan. And you wouldnt need the Freedom Caucus.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:13:53 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Parley Baer
To: Emergencyawesome
Correct. Amazing how many freepers wanted to pass anything even if it meant owning Obamacare with minor changes.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:15:35 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
To: ckinv368
The mandatory requirement had to go, along with all instances of “..as the (bureaucrat in charge) shall determine..”.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:16:55 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
(No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
To: ckinv368
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:17:50 PM PDT
by
Williams
(Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
To: ckinv368
The stupid, it burns. The left’s glee over the failure of RINOCare will become an albatross around their necks.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:18:26 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
To: ckinv368
Conservatives avoided having the collapsing socialized medicine fiasco rebranded as a Republican product.
More Winning.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:20:35 PM PDT
by
MrEdd
(MrEdd)
To: boycott
No, because they demand perfection in an imperfect world, and that which they seek will always remain elusive to them.
But with that being said, I wonder, because I honestly don't know, how many Freedom Caucus members voted to make Paul Ryan speaker, I do hope it was zero.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:21:21 PM PDT
by
WhatNot
(The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
To: All
Ryan protected a lot of frauds by not having a vote.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:21:24 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
(Liver spots And blood thinners.)
To: ckinv368
Not bad, but logic screams to us that without the HFC’s efforts today he would never get to when “... his next efforts at healthcare reform will garner bi-partisan support once Obamacare premiums exponentially increase, coverage options decrease, and the program implodes. “
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:22:01 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
To: Lurkinanloomin
“There was no repeal, there was only rearranging of Obamacare.”
It cut the taxes while leaving the expenses and the regulations. Would have ended in disaster.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:22:03 PM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: ckinv368
No they aren't; n00b!
The BIG LOSERS are the DEMS!
WHY?
Because ObamaCare is still intact...well as "intact" as something that is crumbling, rapidly, to smithereenes, daily and will go completely bust shortly, all the while, costing the populace more and more and MORE money, with less and less, and LESS ability to get any kind of care at all.
To: ckinv368
There are two issues here.
Actual medical care, and patients’ access to it at market costs, including insurance for catastrophes.
And the phony fight between congressional factions.
You are only focusing on number two.
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posted on
03/24/2017 8:22:21 PM PDT
by
Yaelle
To: ckinv368
The conservatives made the right pragmatic choice in rejecting Ryancare. A RINOcrap sandwich is still a crap sandwich.
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