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Microsoft will kill some Windows 7 and 8.1 support in April (Apr 10 Patch Tuesday)
InfoWorld ^ | Mar 23, 2017 | Woody Leonhard

Posted on 03/23/2017 6:12:51 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: dayglored

>> Is there anything out there that could replace MS10 on current PC’s?<<
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“Sure: Linux.”
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Right now I’m using Linux - Lubuntu 16.04 themed with Win XP desktop/startbar & Win 10 icons. I have it dual booting with Win7 on the other drive.
Running Linux isn’t hard - a person just has to get used to the change from Windows. One change that’s great is the operating system and software are free. There are a lot of version to try out. And there are versions of Linux designed specifically for people coming over from Windows. (Versions are called “distros” in Linux-speak.)

The curious can check out different distros here:
https://distrowatch.com

I’ll have to study this Windows issue a bit more, might be dumping Windows before I planned! Ain’t gonna go with Win10.


21 posted on 03/23/2017 6:49:52 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: dayglored
I have less than NO idea what CPU or "architecture" means and no way of finding out.

I have three different anti-virus programs.

I don't want windows 10; I don't do well trying to learn "NEW" things/ways with computers. Actually, I stink utterly at everything other than what I know how to do on one. That's not a problem for me, because I only do a few things on a computer or laptop...until faced with this HUGE problem.

So....just to make certain that I understand this....this means that as of April 10th, I can still use my laptop, won't lose anything, but CAN get "infected"/hacked?

22 posted on 03/23/2017 6:54:35 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dayglored
I don't know what either of those lake things are.

AFAIK, I have neither.

23 posted on 03/23/2017 6:56:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: LouieFisk
I don't run Windows on "bare metal" much anymore -- all but one of my Windows machines are VMs (virtual machines), running under VMware, VirtualBox, or Xen, on either a Linux or Mac host.

So here's what I wonder:

Suppose you have a Linux box with Skylake or Kaby Lake, and you run a Windows 7 VM under that. Can Windows tell that the host is a given architecture? I wonder if that is hidden from the VM, and only a generic CPU abstraction is presented.

Gotta look into that... Anybody here know??

24 posted on 03/23/2017 6:56:30 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Waywardson; Swordmaker
> This just about begs for a “get a mac” reply.

Yeah, but we're not gonna say that out loud.

25 posted on 03/23/2017 6:57:45 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

1. Set a restore point now; when the update trashes your machine, try to restore to March 25. Maybe it will work.

2. Shut off all M$ updates now. Win7 should have its biggest holes patched by now; make sure you have good virus and malware software, and keep it up to date.

3. Upgrade to Mint.


26 posted on 03/23/2017 6:58:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: dayglored

More Fake News.


27 posted on 03/23/2017 6:59:27 PM PDT by McGruff (#PlugTheLeaks)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

“Windows now requires more work arounds than Linux and it isn’t worth the trouble.”
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On Win7 I have probably 8 diff security programs to handle the various threats. On Linux, I just use a firewall and an on-demand scanner, both free. It’s a lot less worry that way.


28 posted on 03/23/2017 6:59:45 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: nopardons

We can do this the easy way. How old is your laptop?

If it’s older than a couple years, chances are very good it’s safe. These new CPUs only started appearing in retail products within the last two years or less.


29 posted on 03/23/2017 7:00:29 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: nopardons
this means that as of April 10th, I can still use my laptop

I'm not sure that that has been established. The update may very well be malware.

30 posted on 03/23/2017 7:00:44 PM PDT by PAR35
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“Sadly, there simply is some software that won’t run under Linux (a lot of Adobe like Premier, Photoshop, etc).”
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I assume you mean using Wine to run Windows progs?


31 posted on 03/23/2017 7:01:11 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: dayglored
Yes, my laptop and the computer are over two years old.

But WILL I get Windows 10, forced down my throat? That would be as bad as getting Malware on it. :-(

32 posted on 03/23/2017 7:03:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: McGruff
> More Fake News.

How so? Every statement in the article that is presented as known fact is true. There is also some speculation and some questions.

I didn't find anything in this article to be false. I don't want to be posting things that aren't true.

Please identify the false statements you found, and cite your evidence for their incorrectness.

33 posted on 03/23/2017 7:04:14 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: nopardons

“I have three different anti-virus programs.”
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In Windows the paid version of Malwarebytes (Premium) is a great investment.


34 posted on 03/23/2017 7:04:38 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: PAR35

And IF I refuse to take the Windows 10 ( which I shall do! ) update....what then?


35 posted on 03/23/2017 7:04:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dayglored

Well, if Microshaft is that determined that they don’t want my business, I can’t really force it on them. Not that they’re currently fielding anything is but anyway, so they haven’t really lost anything.


36 posted on 03/23/2017 7:07:40 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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> But WILL I get Windows 10, forced down my throat? That would be as bad as getting Malware on it. :-(

NO.

Microsoft was forcing Win10 on people during the year it was "free". But now they make you pay for it. So they're not automatically downloading it for you and installing it for you. As far as I know.

On the other hand, they ARE trying to get you to switch to it. So beware any "offers" to try it out.

37 posted on 03/23/2017 7:08:05 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

“If it’s older than a couple years, chances are very good it’s safe. These new CPUs only started appearing in retail products within the last two years or less.”
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I suspect I’m safe for awhile then: Dell Optiplex 960 came out in 2009, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU,


38 posted on 03/23/2017 7:08:57 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: dayglored

This is why I run Linux.


39 posted on 03/23/2017 7:12:18 PM PDT by swhiteman
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To: dayglored
Unless you have one of these 6th Generation Skylake processors it doesn't affect you, does it?
40 posted on 03/23/2017 7:14:08 PM PDT by McGruff (#PlugTheLeaks)
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