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1 posted on 03/21/2017 8:40:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Make him a mouthful of sammich?


2 posted on 03/21/2017 8:41:33 PM PDT by Rastus
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Ping.


3 posted on 03/21/2017 8:48:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: nickcarraway

How do I shut up a LEFTSPLAINER?


4 posted on 03/21/2017 8:53:57 PM PDT by Maceman (Let's ban Muslims temporarily -- just until non-Muslims can freely practice their religions in Mecca)
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Onboarding? Like, "Beam me up, Scottie"? This is why I can't have nice things - I absolutely despise the use of buzzwords/corporate speak.
5 posted on 03/21/2017 8:54:16 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (It is time to make America an uncomfortable place for Marxist usurpers.)
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Dear Allison, stop demonizing male behavior as defective. You are looking to be offended and when you found out that men are too scared to tell a joke or compliment you, you decided that speaking to you at all was offensive. You are the problem.

Signed, The World.

6 posted on 03/21/2017 8:55:33 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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What the heck is mansplaining?

The guy is a chatterbox and you just tell him to be quiet.

If you are not a strong enough person to do that then you should not be in charge of anything.

7 posted on 03/21/2017 8:57:36 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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What I found what works, is:
stop everything you are doing.
Call attention to Fergus.
Tell him he has the floor.
The room will go silent.
Ask him to explain the process\procedure\steps to take.

(If he takes you up on it)
Once he steps on a land mine, you stop his dissertation.
Tell him he is wrong.
Explain the correct procedure beginning from where you left off.
In either case, tell him in no uncertain terms .... no more interruptions.


8 posted on 03/21/2017 8:57:37 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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Crush the patriarchy!


9 posted on 03/21/2017 8:58:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Insecure woman.


10 posted on 03/21/2017 8:58:43 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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I have had great female and male bosses. I have also had horrid bosses of each sex.

This article is so wrong in so many ways. In short she does not know how to be boss and never will. It has nothing to do with her sex but her poor leadership qualities.


11 posted on 03/21/2017 9:00:32 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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She could learn a lot of things relating to whatever it is she does, then she might not have to ask a man (the horror!) for help.


12 posted on 03/21/2017 9:06:55 PM PDT by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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Never interrupt a mansplainer. Because he’s a man.


15 posted on 03/21/2017 9:24:41 PM PDT by bigbob
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This behavior isn’t gender-specific. I’ve seen it a lot, in both men and women.

And it ALWAYS gets worse, until eventually the person has to be fired so the rest of the team can function.


18 posted on 03/21/2017 9:39:00 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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Dear person writing to your boss. It doesn’t matter if Fergus makes you upset. You’ve given notice. Let go.

Fergus didn’t just walk in the door - somebody liked him and his background enough to want to hire him. Your actions are undermining that higher-up’s decision. His supervisor may put her hand up to stop his input, but it’s inappropriate for you to do so because he is your equal. It is also inappropriate to speak harshly to him in a meeting setting. That’s what closed doors are for. What you’re really doing is trying to make yourself look more valuable going out the door and that’s selfish. Turn your criticism into a helping hand.

Fergus needs to let trainees know that he is the new trainer - because he is. You’re gone. If he just sits there while you decide whether he’s your perfect duplicate, you’re wasting the company’s resources. He should be conducting the training sessions, with you there to give him feedback - after the session in a quiet environment. Since he’s done equivalent work in other settings, and likely has a wealth of experience to draw from because of his age (btw, even mentioning his age in a letter to your boss is harassment), understand that he may have different insight than you. His responsibility is to please the hiring authority, not you. Have fun in your new career and don’t worry about Fergus. He’ll be just fine.


19 posted on 03/21/2017 9:43:02 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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A loudmouth male is obviously a sexist mamsplainer. These snowflakes are useless. They have no ability to deal with everyday behavior.


23 posted on 03/21/2017 10:54:38 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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I managed a multitude of people in a multitude of fields and industries since I was in my early twenties. First Fergus' behavior is what the usual 90 day probation period is for in many new jobs (I'm speaking specifically in corporate America and equivalent jobs.). If he has behaviors that aren't a good fit for the job, team, or company, most likely he should be let go.

It's nice to see people care enough to try to work with him a bit and just practicing assertiveness with this guy by several team leaders and he still not changing is a major red flag. Giving him a little time to get ramped up while also providing feedback and clarification meetings during the probation will also allow both he and the management to feel he has been given plenty of guidance, time, and opportunity. If he doesn't change. Well it's time to go.

Lastly in pretty much EVERY work environment a certain amount of men young and men old and men of the same age balk at or in some way get in conflict with powerful females or women whose job just happens to be in charge. But those same men are just that way. And some men truly do not like a women that they perceive to be more powerful to be that way. So their egos get all puffed up and reactive. If you're a woman and you're naturally a leader you get flamed a lot. And you deal with it and actually grow used to it. I grew up with lots of men. And my dad was an alpha and I'm just like him. (I'm submissive in other arenas ;D) So. It just is. Having said that I have always been super attractive and intelligent and talented. Thus my experience too has been the same BS can come from women because they are either threatened or jealous. And some of my worst bosses have been females and some of my most supportive bosses and teachers have been male. So the world can get real complicated real quick when one is a leader and a female. Make her naturally, friendly, sexy, fun, smart, and super conscientious and driven and you'll have plenty of flack coming from everywhere for a variety of different reasons.

Having said all this. Notice I NEVER really mentioned age? Personalities are personalities. We all have them :D. Old school has some redeeming qualities and new school has some redeeming qualities. Both have drawbacks. Women that are true, life time leaders that buck the system with innovation and power understand you will get plenty of blow back and plenty of people's stuff throw at you. None of which is to be taken personal. In the end it's what it best for the job and the company.

Fergus may mellow. But what's most important here is he is repeating misinformation in an informational role. Does his over talking also interfere with that delivery of information that is critical to his job? Well then if he doesn't mellow. Probably best to let him go at some point no matter what his age or gender. Life really IS that simple. And thank God!!! We're all human.

25 posted on 03/22/2017 12:14:07 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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A smart employee learns the company's protocols and processes first, then applies their knowledge within those parameters to improve things.

This older gentleman isn't being smart. He won't last.

27 posted on 03/22/2017 12:32:28 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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How is this “mansplaining”? I’ve worked with people like this in almost every job I’ve held ... male and female alike. This isn’t a gender thing. It’s more of a passive-aggressive know-it-all mentality.


30 posted on 03/22/2017 3:31:36 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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I’m a woman in my mid-30s and my team has been fantastic about supporting me as I enter this new managerial role (I do not have direct reports, but I manage the function).

I don't know how to tell this bitch, BUT, without PEOPLE reporting to you, you are NOT a manager, you are a trainer.

I've worked for women managers and company owners, and have no problem with strong, smart women, but this whiner makes me sick {and tired}.

31 posted on 03/22/2017 3:34:47 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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Geez 10 paragraphs to cover a simple question. I think that is the problem.


32 posted on 03/22/2017 3:40:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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