Posted on 03/20/2017 10:31:36 AM PDT by drewh
In Sunday nights episode of HBOs Girls, Full Disclosure, Lena Dunham's character Hannah is still informing her close friends and family about her pregnancy. Her decision to keep the baby comes as shocking news to those she tells given that Hannah is, much like Dunham herself, strongly liberal and extremely pro-abortion (so much so that Dunham stated publicly that she wishes she had had an abortion.)
But her friends and family come around to the news when they realize she's serious. One friend, Marnie (Allison Williams) has a lot of questions, some of which Hannah is not quite ready to answer.
[Warning: Explicit Language]
Marnie: What do you got?
Hannah: Well, um... I'm pregnant.
Marnie: That's very funny.
Hannah: Not a joke, just what's going on in my uterus.
Marnie: Holy fucking shit. Hannah, how did this happen?
Hannah: How does anything happen? I went to the Hamptons.
Marnie: Yeah, and you decided just to not use any birth control whatsoever?
Hannah: I told him to pull out, but you know I tend to swallow my Ps, so maybe he thought I said, "All out." I don't know.
Marnie: Are you fucking kidding me? Hannah, the pull-out method does not work. I literally know hundreds of pull-out babies.
Hannah: You do not know a hundred babies.
Marnie: Hannah, what are you going to do?
Hannah: Well, that's the news. I'm gonna keep it.
Marnie: No, you're not.
Hannah: Yes, I am.
Marnie: Stop fucking with me. You're not gonna have a baby.
Hannah: I'm gonna have a baby.
Marnie: I'm into it.
Hannah: Really?
Marnie: Yeah.
Hannah: Are you serious?
Marnie: Yeah. You're old enough, so, yeah. And, you know, on the spectrum of human beings, you basically have your shit together. Plus, wouldn't it be kind of great just to have somebody else to consider?
Hannah: I can't believe how supportive you're being. This is a shock. It kind of makes me want to do it less.
Marnie: Oh, my God! This is wild. Okay, I have a million questions. Do you know if it's a boy or a girl?
Hannah: No, it's, like, way too early for that, but if it's not a girl, or like, the gayest boy in the entire world, obviously I'm gonna flip the fuck out.
Marnie: Oh, the father. Like, is he gonna be involved? Is he gonna help?
Hannah: I'm not telling him.
Marnie: He doesn't know?
Hannah: No, I don't want him to be a part of the kid's life, so why would I tell him?
Marnie: Because he's the father and he deserves to know.
Hannah: That's a pretty patriarchal, old-fashioned attitude to have.
Marnie: You are obviously going to tell him eventually. But even if you weren't planning on it, your baby is gonna grow up to wonder, like, "Where is my father and why did he leave us?"
Hannah: Yeah, and I can worry about that when she can talk, when she's, like, seven. And until then, I don't want to have to trouble him. He has enough stress with, like, his, you know, water skiing issues and his girlfriend.
Marnie: So, he's a water skier with a girlfriend?
Hannah: It's my body, okay, and it's my baby, and I have made the choice that I am not going to tell him.
Marnie: Okay, I take back what I said about you having your shit together because this is fucking insane.
Hannah: I knew that you were gonna try to be controlling and control the entire way that I brought my child into this world. And I probably shouldn't have even told you until I was in labor.
Though abortion advocates try to claim that abortion isnt used as birth control, Girls depicts the type of situation that commonly leads to just that. Hannahs friend Marnie rightfully chides her for her irresponsible decision to use the pull-out method, but of course, doesnt say a word about having a random sexual encounter with a man she barely knows.
Marnie also points out a common trait of Millennials - their lack of consideration for other human beings and their me-centered attitude. Plus, wouldnt it be kind of great just to have somebody else to consider? Meaning that they usually only consider themselves.
Which could be why Hannah will flip the fuck out if she doesnt have a girl or the gayest boy in the entire world. Having a straight son isnt an option she would personally prefer, and of course, its all about her. Such a wish reveals a very anti-male attitude as well. As does her desire to not inform the father that shes pregnant with his child. Despite Marnie telling her the father has the right to know, Hannah says thats a pretty patriarchal, old-fashioned attitude to have. Telling a man that he is a father and giving him the right to be involved in his childs life is patriarchal and old-fashioned? I suppose in Hannahs self-obsessed, male-hating world that must be the case.
And what is Hannahs reply when Marnie pushes the issue of telling the father? The typical, pro-abortion propaganda, Its my body. It doesnt make much sense in any setting, but especially not this one. This fathers child is not her body. The baby has its own, separate body, complete with its own DNA. It will one day be outside of Hannahs body, walking around, talking and making its own decisions. And even while in the womb, should it die, Hannah will not die with it because they are separate bodies. And if something goes wrong in the babys body that requires surgery, a surgeon can operate on the baby while in utero and fix the problem in the babys separate body.
Since Hannahs good friend is not on board with the idea of keeping her pregnancy a secret from her baby's father, Hannah goes to her own gay father and his partner for advice.
Hannah: I just kind of think it's, like, a lose-lose, okay? If I tell him and he doesn't want to be part of the child's life, he's just gonna feel this, like, undue burden of having a child. And if I tell him and he does, then what I am I gonna do? 'Cause I don't wanna sound classist or whatever, but I'm not raising my child half the year on an all-inclusive resort. I'm just gonna, like, treat him like a sperm donor, okay? And sperm donors traditionally are not told.
Dad: Yeah, that's a good point.
Keith: Well, you know, as someone who was a sperm donor, I can tell you I certainly did want to be a part of that child's life.
Hannah: Do you have a kid, Keith?
Keith: Sadly, no. You know, my lesbian friends, Aminy and Roni-- you met them, Tad, the pot roast people. They wanted to use my sperm, but it didn't work out. Anyway, after they started trying, they told me they didn't want to tell the child that I was the father, and it was extremely upsetting. I mean, that person would have been a part of my life.
Dad: But, honey, this story is different. The man Hannah lay with wasn't having sex with the intent to make a child.
Hannah: Nothing about his life projects the idea that he wants a child.
Keith: Well, it still doesn't change the fact that the child will be his.
Dad: Hannah's already decided. It's her body. I think we all need to do exactly what we feel is right for us. I clearly learned that lesson the hard way.
Keith: Oh, come on, you can't equate what Hannah's doing with your lifetime denial of being a gay man.
Dad: They both involve personal freedom.
Hannah: You guys don't have to get worked up about
Dad: As a mother, Hannah has to decide what's best for the baby. And not telling the father is what she's decided is best. Are you going to tell every mother how to raise their child?
Keith: I just don't think she has enough information to make a fair decision. She doesn't know who this guy is, what he wants.
Hannah: I have a pretty good sense of who he is. He wears, like, a puka shell necklace and his days off are Thursday and Tuesday.
So, the poor surf instructor, who decided to have unprotected casual sex with a woman he barely knows, might feel an undue burden over having a child? (Something that neither one of them apparently considered while having unprotected sex.) Thats a valid reason for not informing him that he is a father?
For a feminist like Hannah to reject the notion that men should be responsible for the children they helped to create, is awfully contradictory to feminist values. Quite a conundrum Hannah is in, wanting to disavow men altogether by not informing the father and wishing for a girl or the gayest boy in the entire world, yet also letting men off the hook for any responsibility, such as child support, for their child.
It speaks to how men seem to often benefit the most from having abortion as an option, since it allows them to have random, casual sex and not have to be responsible for the consequences - after all, it's her body, her choice. Perhaps that could explain why Playboy is such a strong supporter of abortion?
Surprisingly, Hannahs fathers partner Keith argues for telling the baby's father since he was upset at being cut out of the picture after donating sperm to his lesbian friends.
Hannahs father, however, reverts to the same selfish, pro-abortion catch phrases that Hannah used before with Marnie, saying its her body and that we all need to do exactly what we feel is right for us, while somehow equating it with his lifetime denial of being a gay man, as Keith points out and disagrees with. But Hannahs father persists saying that they both involve personal freedom.
As a mother, Hannah has to decide what's best for the baby, he argues. And not telling the father is what she's decided is best. Are you going to tell every mother how to raise their child? Yes, because its all about Hannah. Its all about what she decides is best. And informing a man that he is now a father is telling a mother how to raise her child. Right.
So, if youre a straight man, Girls wants you to know, its not about you, ever.
No, Hannah only wants a girl or the gayest boy in the world. So, her disdain for straight men even flows to her own child. Her best friend is gay. Her father is gay. And the straight man she slept with is persona non-grata, who Hannah wants completely out of the picture.
Because this is Hannahs world. Or Lena Dunhams version of Utopia. Its all about Hannah, and only Hannah, all the time. Straight men, whether theyre the father of her baby, or the very baby she births, are clearly have no rights in it, unless Hannah decides they do.
They don’t want to tell you, but they do want that child support money.
Stupid whores. But then again, it’s Hell’s Box Office.
this is why hbo free weekends do not tempt people.
Curated TV (aka controlled programing) is dead.
“Hannah’s already decided. It’s her body. I think we all need to do exactly what we feel is right for us.”
Basically, the modern left follows the law of pagans/witches/satanists everywhere: ‘Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”
Don’t watch, won’t watch any fantasy show and you can be assured that its fantasy . . . who in their right mind would sleep with Lena Dunham???
No one even watches this POS show. HBO hyped it for as long as possible and now is letting it die.
Yep. Only show to be cancelled for having too MUCH nudity.
She doesn’t have to inform anyone, the father was a turkey baster.
I’m pregnant!
Congratulations!
In a normal situation.
That was a disgusting conversation.
Leftists are so warped, their children are doomed right from the start.
It would be impossible for Lena Dunham to get pregnant unless it was with a turkey baster.
Dunhan is a leftist ideologue and hack of the highest order, but this proves even she can not deny the natural maternal instinct.
Of course, it causes massive cognitive dissonance in the post-modern, hyper-sexualized, materialist, leftist brain - but God’s natural order of things can never be denied.
Oh I dunno.Ever been in a country-western bar at closing time?
Does she dance like Frau Merkel, does Frau Merkel dance like her or is that just a natural flailing movement for pear-shaped individuals?
In this case, the notions of not telling the father, Lena having sex, Lena raising a child when she's so clearly a misandrist, the whole "pull out/all out" conversation are so.......revolting...... I could never entertain the idea of watching 60 seconds of this show.
child support is patriarchal, too. bet she isn’t writing that off...
Stunning and amazing in a negative way.
Somebody is pregnant and doesn’t tell the father?
Understood that they aren’t a married or committed couple, but still, can’t believe a situation in which she doesn’t even inform the father of the baby.
Yep he might find out when given child support information.
It is stunning the contrived way some Millenials think. I have an acquaintance who is 35, recently out of a live-in relationship and is now dating a guy that she cannot decide how much she likes. He is good looking, has a job, has never married and wants to have a baby with her. I asked if she loved him and she’s not sure. I basically said it isn’t fair to bring a child into the world without the benefit of the parents being married. she stopped talking with me.....I guess I went too far. But the ‘have someone else to think about’ really is a sign of the near complete self-involvement of many Millenials. In the Left’s ‘anything you do is ok’ world, considering any consequences of your actions is rare.
Yep he might find out when given child support information.
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This is all going to come to a head in the next decade or so... right now there is enough public information in DNA registries to connect almost anyone with at least close cousins... the more info in the registries the harder it’ll be to ever hide... Closed adoption is dead because there will be no way to keep the secret even if it’s wanted... I think we need the entire anti-abortion dialogue out in the public to end much of the stigma of an unexpected/unmarried pregnancy and bring back the public care for unwed mothers.
I think Roe is going down simply because of it’s faulty reasoning regarding the child’s formation and makeup at even the earliest stages. It has been undeniable that a child different from the parents exists at conception for a few decades now.
In several countries birth control is mandatory for young women (China) ,, or permanent birth control is made available at no cost or the woman is paid (India , Thailand , others) .. Mens rights will come into play and I see a time when sterilization and stored semen are the norm...
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