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Senate Intelligence Chairmen Reject Trump Wiretapping Claims
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/senate-intelligence-trump-wiretapping/2017/03/16/id/779149/ ^ | 03/16/2017 | n/a

Posted on 03/16/2017 2:32:39 PM PDT by heterosupremacist

Their statement follows House Speaker Paul Ryan's saying earlier that "no such wiretap existed," citing intelligence reports to House leaders.

"The intelligence committees, in their continuing, widening, ongoing investigations of all things Russia, got to the bottom — at least so far with respect to our intelligence community — that no such wiretap existed," Ryan said at a morning news conference.

Trump initially said on Twitter that his phones at Trump Tower were “wire tapped” by former President Barack Obama during the campaign. Trump walked that claim back on Wednesday, telling Fox News that “‘Wiretap’ covers a lot of different things." He also suggested that evidence supporting his claim may be forthcoming.

The statement by the two senators follows bipartisan questioning of Trump’s initial posting. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes of California said Wednesday that if you take Trump’s tweet on wiretapping literally, “clearly the president was wrong.”

Arizona Republican Senator John McCain said on CNN last weekend that “the president has one of two choices: either retract or to provide the information that the American people deserve.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: mccain; nunes; ryan; trump; trumptowergate; wiretapping
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1 posted on 03/16/2017 2:32:39 PM PDT by heterosupremacist
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2 posted on 03/16/2017 2:36:27 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Yeah right. They believe what they want. They were monitoring all things Trump but it wasn’t “wiretapping”


3 posted on 03/16/2017 2:36:46 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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....me thinks, Trump has more than he’s letting on....waiting for him to set the hook


4 posted on 03/16/2017 2:39:57 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: heterosupremacist

Idiots. Obama used the Brits to spy on Trump.
He did not leave a paper trail.
Even if he had, these numbskulls couldn’t find it.
They don’t want to find it.
They want to undermine Trump.


5 posted on 03/16/2017 2:40:58 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: heterosupremacist

I “literally” feel that most of these senators should be removed from office for their idiocy and laziness.


6 posted on 03/16/2017 2:41:13 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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Do they plan to interview Michael Schmidt, Matthew Rosenberg, Adam Goldman, and Matt Apuzzo from the NYT who published the story on January 20 headlined, “Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides”. They seemed pretty sure of their former senior American official sources when they said, “American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump.” If they were burned by their sources they should apologize and reveal who they were. If they stand by their story then somebody is covering this up at a pretty high level.


7 posted on 03/16/2017 2:49:47 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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Do they plan to interview Michael Schmidt, Matthew Rosenberg, Adam Goldman, and Matt Apuzzo from the NYT who published the story on January 20 headlined, “Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides”. They seemed pretty sure of their former senior American official sources when they said, “American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump.” If they were burned by their sources they should apologize and reveal who they were. If they stand by their story then somebody is covering this up at a pretty high level.


8 posted on 03/16/2017 2:50:00 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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Has taken 6 mos to investigate the Russian connection and 10 mins to check wiretapping. Trust us we are not tapping all your phones.


9 posted on 03/16/2017 2:52:26 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: heterosupremacist

I despise lazy reporters who operate from a false premise and politicians who think every stupid question requires an answer which they almost always get wrong.


10 posted on 03/16/2017 2:52:45 PM PDT by onyx (Donate Monthly ~ Join 300 Club!)
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Spying is spying. Stop nitpicking the “wiretapping” thing, RINOs.


11 posted on 03/16/2017 2:53:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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Trump will do the same thing to his congressional enemies as he did to Rachel Madcow, and make them look like complete fools. I see a trend here. His detractors demand information and proof about certain things. He ignores them for a lengthy period of time then releases the information leaving them with egg all over their faces. This wiretapping situation will be no different.


12 posted on 03/16/2017 3:11:35 PM PDT by huckfillary
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Yes, indeed! His strategy is similar to James O’Keefe’s. Release something, let the opposition form their attacks and defenses, then reveal something more that levels everything they’ve prepared for.


13 posted on 03/16/2017 3:18:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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To: heterosupremacist

Senate Committee is ignorant and stupid and un-American.


14 posted on 03/16/2017 3:28:17 PM PDT by mulligan
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When Trump produces his evidence Image and video hosting by TinyPic you'll look like a jerk.
15 posted on 03/16/2017 3:29:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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Anyone remember when Eisenhower let the Soviets rant and rave over the spying by the USA using the U2? We let Krusvchev carry on and ultimatly call a UN Security Council meeting to condemn the US over it.....then Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. exposed “The Thing” to the world.

Guess which way the Council’s vote went.

I bet Trump remembers....It was 10 years before Ryan was even born.


16 posted on 03/16/2017 3:43:22 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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First of two parts and maybe more on the long history, 7+ decades, of the UK’s spying on our people and us spying on their people.

UKUSA Agreement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The UKUSA Community: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States

The United Kingdom – United States of America Agreement (UKUSA, /;/ew-koo-sah)[1][2] is a multilateral agreement for cooperation in signals intelligence between Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The alliance of intelligence operations is also known as the Five Eyes.[3][4][5][6][7]

In classification markings this is abbreviated as FVEY, with the individual countries being abbreviated as AUS, CAN, NZL, GBR, and USA, respectively.[8]

Emerging from an informal agreement related to the 1941 Atlantic Charter, the secret treaty was renewed with the passage of the 1943 BRUSA Agreement, before being officially enacted on 5 March 1946 by the United Kingdom and the United States. In the following years, it was extended to encompass Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Other countries, known as “third parties”, such as West Germany, the Philippines, and several Nordic countries also joined the UKUSA community.[9][10]

Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain “some of the Western world’s most closely guarded secrets”.[11]

Besides laying down rules for intelligence sharing, the agreement formalized and cemented the “Special Relationship” between the UK and the USA.[12][13]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

[13] On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online.[9][15] Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War’s most important documents, with immense historical significance.[13]

The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.[16][17][18]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.


17 posted on 03/16/2017 4:12:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spygate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people!

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well, Nancy how about this:

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2]

GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.
Contents

1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links
Overview:

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)
MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP. In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]

Operational details:
According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland.
The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2]

Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections.

According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)


18 posted on 03/16/2017 4:19:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spygate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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Congressmen shooting off their mouths might do well to remember Yogi’s famous advice:

“Its not over till the fat lady sings.”


19 posted on 03/16/2017 5:29:41 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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Senate Intelligence - isn’t that one of those oxymoron’s?


20 posted on 03/16/2017 5:52:40 PM PDT by underbyte (TEOTEWAWKI)
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