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Desktop Linux the best it’s ever been—and keeps getting better
Network World ^ | 3/16/17 | Bryan Lunduke

Posted on 03/16/2017 2:54:56 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Blue Highway
I don't know about from CD - my gut feel is it *should*... The "live" versions that run from removable media (CDs, thumb drives) typically build a small file system in RAM for their use.

I've run various flavors of Mint (pun intended), Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, and a couple other distros from thumb drives.

21 posted on 03/16/2017 5:28:34 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: Swordmaker; dayglored; ShadowAce

Tech ping


22 posted on 03/16/2017 5:30:56 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: markomalley
This is the year for desktop linux!

There, just had to say it. ;-)

Full disclosure, I'm a borderline Linux fanboy. I've been using Linux as my primary OS at home for over a decade. I've used it at work for twice that.

In reality I think "the" year for desktop Linux was probably 6 or 8 years ago. Since that time it has become very easy to use. The dirty little secret is Linux is now easier to install, upgrade, and configure common devices for than Windows. Of course, Windows comes pre-installed so virtually no-one realizes this.

What makes it fun to say, or keep saying this is "the" year of the Linux desktop is that it really depends on what your definition of "the" year is. If it is Linux gobbling up desktop market share from Windows boxes and Macs - sorry, never going to happen. If it is getting to the point where it is entirely usable by a non-techie - that happened years ago.

Is it for everyone? No, but then neither is Windows or Mac. I'd recommend everyone try it as an alternative to feeding the beasts in Redmond and Cupertino. Yes, I'll stipulate the dozen or so people reading this and just itching to reply with their story of how Linux failed miserably for them. Yes, that still happens, less now than before.

23 posted on 03/16/2017 5:48:42 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: markomalley

Does linux have an android emulator?


24 posted on 03/16/2017 6:30:40 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

“Does linux have an android emulator?”

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&site=webhp&source=hp&ei=O5XKWNapCoTrmQGEwKT4Cw&q=android+emulator+linux&oq=&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.0.41l3.0.0.0.7159.1.1.0.1.1.0.228.228.2-1.1.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-hp..0.1.49.3.7htYvUWCikU


25 posted on 03/16/2017 6:39:07 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: wrench

I also use Ubuntu.

What I’d like to find is how to install a virtual Windows so I can run the expressPCB board layout, and MPLabIDE & Microcode IC programmer programs; those 3 are the only Windows programs I use.

Presently they’re on a non internet connected laptop.


26 posted on 03/16/2017 6:57:48 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: markomalley

I bought a Linux laptop (Mint/Cinnamon) last year.

I have yet to find any Windows program that will run through Wine. Most I tried would not run at all or would only load a portion of the GUI.

I also have tried EVERY browser that will work in Linux to try to run FoxSports, ESPN, cable TV, etc. Some will partially load the graphics, but none will actually play events. My cable company provides TV viewing for subscribers through browsers, but the feature does not work with Linux/Mint.

Since the web is becoming more, not less, visual with graphics and videos, Linux needs to step up its capabilities. Just saying ‘Linux does not support Adobe Flash’ is not a great selling point, since many websites still use Adobe Flash.

In several areas, Linux still is not ready to be a viable competitor to Windows [7, even].

As long as my Win 7 laptop and desktop hold up, they are still my preferred. I do remember with Win XP that it could not handle the intense graphics/videos on the web. That was the only reason I changed to Win 7.

Since ‘mobile friendly’ has taken over much of the web, that has ruined a lot of websites with over-sized print and graphics and irregular/jumpy scrolling, etc. Newer is not always better.


27 posted on 03/16/2017 7:05:50 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Blue Highway

Try watching some of their 'instructional' youtube videos.


28 posted on 03/16/2017 7:09:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Zeppo

Kinda like saying that “the Yugo, right now, is better than it’s ever been.”

...

Yep. I’ll believe these Linux articles when they don’t come from a disciple.


29 posted on 03/16/2017 7:12:04 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: All

I’m running a virtualized linux on top of a linux server. I have only one windows 7 virtual machine and some old windows laptops and tablets that I no longer use.
I use a raspberry pi ‘head’ to virtual machines right now.


30 posted on 03/16/2017 7:37:07 AM PDT by jr3000
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And for those who don’t believe in linux desktops, I’ve been running linux since its experimental days in 1995. Back when there was only one distro to download and two other even-more experimental ones. In the rare cases when I can, I ran x-windows with a mouse with three buttons.


31 posted on 03/16/2017 7:39:52 AM PDT by jr3000
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To: wrench

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu. Every one of the FAQs and all of the support that applies to Ubuntu also applies to Linux Mint. So, you have all the benefits of Ubuntu with some 3rd party software pre-installed and some Mint-only features that many people find desirable. You lose nothing but (IMHO) an inferior desktop environment called Unity by going with Mint over Ubuntu. And even then, if you really want to punish yourself with Unity, you can install it on Mint.

That is the beauty of Linux. You don’t have to be a rabid fanboy warning people away from things you aren’t even familiar with, because in many cases, whatever you like about any particular distro can be duplicated in another.

Now, if one wanted to debate using a Debian based distro like Ubuntu/Mint over one based on Arch or Gentoo or Fedora, that is a debate that has more merit than one over whether to use Ubuntu or a distro based on it.


32 posted on 03/16/2017 7:52:00 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: markomalley

Since I have a “spare” desktop computer, I ought to give this a try. Only problem is that there are only 24 hours in a day and I’m already doing too many unproductive things. But learning the potential future operating system would, perhaps, be a good use of some time.


33 posted on 03/16/2017 8:03:21 AM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: TomGuy

Linux actually does support Flash (which the web in general is finally starting to move away from) and it works fine. The issue with the cable providers is their antiquated digital rights management systems that they only make to work on Mac and Windows. I feel your pain though. You want to watch your cable subscription and can’t, regardless of why.

I keep a Roku around for my cable subscription viewing. YMMV, but IMHO, Linux is so superior in so many ways to running Windows on my PCs that I’m willing to shell out the extra small amount of money for things like that. I feel that my sanity is worth it, as is the time that I can spend on better things than waiting for slow-as-molasses Windows to find some way to get itself infected with more viruses and spyware.

With the exception of Photoshop and 3ds Max, I don’t ever boot into Windows for anything anymore. Even then, my desktop is beefy enough to run Photoshop in Virtualbox and have a good enough experience with it for most of the work I have to do.


34 posted on 03/16/2017 8:07:52 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: TomGuy

Linux actually does support Flash (which the web in general is finally starting to move away from) and it works fine. The issue with the cable providers is their antiquated digital rights management systems that they only make to work on Mac and Windows. I feel your pain though. You want to watch your cable subscription and can’t, regardless of why.

I keep a Roku around for my cable subscription viewing. YMMV, but IMHO, Linux is so superior in so many ways to running Windows on my PCs that I’m willing to shell out the extra small amount of money for things like that. I feel that my sanity is worth it, as is the time that I can spend on better things than waiting for slow-as-molasses Windows to find some way to get itself infected with more viruses and spyware.

With the exception of Photoshop and 3ds Max, I don’t ever boot into Windows for anything anymore. Even then, my desktop is beefy enough to run Photoshop in Virtualbox and have a good enough experience with it for most of the work I have to do.


35 posted on 03/16/2017 8:07:53 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: TomGuy

Windows is moving away from Adobe Flash so it’s a rather moot point.


36 posted on 03/16/2017 8:11:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: meyer

You kind of have to hit ‘rock bottom’ for it to really make sense to get used to a whole new environment. It’s a big change and when everything is foreign, it’s easy to go back to what you’re used to.

Windows Vista was rock bottom for me. I figured that if they were going to change a bunch of the stupid nonsense I had memorized on Win2k/XP for no reason, I may as well learn it all again in Linux instead of learning their crap so they could just change it all again for no earthly good reason.

Of course Linux isn’t without it’s issues in that regard. The quest to try and make every desktop perform like a phone or a tablet infuriates me and it runs across both Windows and Linux. With Linux, however, there are some alternatives that I find more viable than the Windows ones that I’ve tried.


37 posted on 03/16/2017 8:13:33 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: AppyPappy

You’ll have to pry the dying business models of the cable companies from their cold dead hands!!


38 posted on 03/16/2017 8:17:13 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: markomalley

I have not run windoze on my home machine for over 10 years now. My wife, who hardly knows how to cut on a computer, is perfectly comfortable with all the stuff your average user needs to do, which is surf the web, listen to music, send and save pix, email, compose and print letters, bulletins, etc. I cannot think of a use that linux will not do, or does not have a native app for, except quickbooks, and there are workarounds for that.

Your average linux basher blabs about how hard it is, and most of the time knows nothing, frankly.

The great thing is that your average malware is completely ineffective. I still have to worry about scriptware running on browser apps, but even that is easier to fix in a nix box.

I am not a professional geek. I am rather an ex insurance guy who is now doing construction/remodeling/repair and doing a small farming op.

It takes a LITTLE time to get on the curve, but the author is right. Linux is the best os out there.

For the record, pull up the covers on Apple’s OS and what do you find? Bash Unix. It is very good and very elegant, and I don’t deny that. It is also proprietary and expensive.

I made the right decision 10 years ago.


39 posted on 03/16/2017 8:21:44 AM PDT by Rothbards ghost
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

So far, I haven’t quite hit bottom. My primary desktop is still Win 7, which I like. I have 10 on my laptop and the “backup” desktop, which is marginally useful.

The MacBook Pro has whatever the latest Mac OS is, but it’s in the shop for a rather expensive repair (which is unfortunate given the premium price of Mac products). I almost said no to the fix, but since they’ve already got it, and since I do like the machine, I let them do it. It’s got a relatively large 512 gig SSD so it’s no slouch.

Anyway, I’ve got enough hardware to experiment, as long as it’s free.


40 posted on 03/16/2017 8:22:26 AM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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