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Take 10: My All-Time Favorite Western Movies
Al Arabiya ^ | Saturday, 11 March 2017 | Hisham Melhem

Posted on 03/11/2017 10:56:52 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: sargon

A favorite scene of mine is in Open Range when Kostner walks up to the guy and says “You The One Who Killed Our Friend.” No sooner does the guy admit it than BOOM! Loved it!!!!!!


81 posted on 03/11/2017 2:03:55 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Kartographer
great movies to show boys how to be a man.

Another one in that same genre that was not mentioned anywhere, Hombre, with Paul Newman. That's an existentialist western if there ever was one.

However, the one that I will watch whenever it is shown is The Outlaw Josey Wales. The action and the humor in that film never disappoint. Casting Chief Dan George was a stroke of genius.

82 posted on 03/11/2017 2:08:21 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Varda
“Most cowboys in fact were blacks and Latinos”

Where did this idea come from? I’ve seen this assertion several times.

Cowboy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


cowboy is an animal herder who tends cattle on ranches in North America, traditionally on horseback, and often performs a multitude of other ranch-related tasks. The historic American cowboy of the late 19th century arose from the vaquero traditions of northern Mexico and became a figure of special significance and legend.[1] A subtype, called a wrangler, specifically tends the horses used to work cattle. In addition to ranch work, some cowboys work for or participate in rodeosCowgirls, first defined as such in the late 19th century, had a less-well documented historical role, but in the modern world have established the ability to work at virtually identical tasks and obtained considerable respect for their achievements.[2] There are also cattle handlers in many other parts of the world, particularly South America and Australia, who perform work similar to the cowboy in their respective nations.

The cowboy has deep historic roots tracing back to Spain and the earliest European settlers of the Americas. Over the centuries, differences in terrain, climate and the influence of cattle-handling traditions from multiple cultures created several distinct styles of equipment, clothing and animal handling. As the ever-practical cowboy adapted to the modern world, the cowboy's equipment and techniques also adapted to some degree, though many classic traditions are still preserved today.

[...]

Ethnicity

American cowboys were drawn from multiple sources. By the late 1860s, following the American Civil War and the expansion of the cattle industry, former soldiers from both the Union and Confederacy came west, seeking work, as did large numbers of restless white men in general.[52] A significant number of African-American freedmen also were drawn to cowboy life, in part because there was not quite as much discrimination in the west as in other areas of American society at the time.[53] A significant number of Mexicans and American Indians already living in the region also worked as cowboys.[54] Later, particularly after 1890, when American policy promoted "assimilation" of Indian people, some Indian boarding schools also taught ranching skills. Today, some Native Americans in the western United States own cattle and small ranches, and many are still employed as cowboys, especially on ranches located near Indian Reservations. The "Indian Cowboy" also became a commonplace sight on the rodeo circuit.

Because cowboys ranked low in the social structure of the period, there are no firm figures on the actual proportion of various races. One writer states that cowboys were "... of two classes—those recruited from Texas and other States on the eastern slope; and Mexicans, from the south-western region ..."[55] Census records suggest that about 15% of all cowboys were of African-American ancestry—ranging from about 25% on the trail drives out of Texas, to very few in the northwest. Similarly, cowboys of Mexican descent also averaged about 15% of the total, but were more common in Texas and the southwest. Other estimates suggest that in the late 19th century, one out of every three cowboys was a Mexican vaquero, and 20% may have been African-American.[24]

Regardless of ethnicity, most cowboys came from lower social classes and the pay was poor. The average cowboy earned approximately a dollar a day, plus food, and, when near the home ranch, a bed in the bunkhouse, usually a barracks-like building with a single open room.[56]



83 posted on 03/11/2017 2:08:32 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: nickcarraway

An extended list would include “Missouri Breaks”. There are also the many frontiersman/mountainman movies.


84 posted on 03/11/2017 2:15:21 PM PST by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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To: HotHunt

“John Wayne. Now there was a great American.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdaGBNXMinY&t=202s

This is an interview with Maureen O’Hara. Earlier on she describes a scene from “The Quiet Man”. But skip to 4:18 and it has a clip of her asking Congress to award John Wayne the Congressional Medal. Very touching, and sums up this article!

As to movies - I’m not sure it is a western, but I loved “Jeremiah Johnson”.


85 posted on 03/11/2017 2:18:31 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: DeFault User

Chief Dan George was also in Little Big Man. Pretty much playing the identical character. He announced, “Today is a good day to die”. Then he climbed up onto his raised death pyre in open air,........ but when he felt a drop of rain he changed his mind. Movie legend has it that the Klingons got that phrase from Chief Dan George in that movie.


86 posted on 03/11/2017 2:21:06 PM PST by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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To: HandyDandy

Yep, Old Lodge Skins who became invisible. :D


87 posted on 03/11/2017 2:30:56 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Delta 21
I would say a lot of samurai movies fit the bill and sword and sandals are a close second. To this writer's list I would add The Cowboys and The Grey Fox. I would also say any thing with Harry Carey Jr. and Ben Johnson in the saddle is worth watching just to see those two pros work a horse. Slim Pickens was also an excellent horseman.
88 posted on 03/11/2017 2:32:00 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

Ben Johnson is one of my all time favorites. Had the best voice in the movies.

He refused the part of “Sam The Lion” in “The Last Picture Show” because of the bad language. Peter Bogdanovich agreed to eliminate the language and Johnson won an oscar.

I still remember him from “Mighty Joe Young” when he said: “There are cowboys in Oklahoma too” or something like that.


89 posted on 03/11/2017 2:41:22 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: 21twelve
As to movies - I’m not sure it is a western, but I loved “Jeremiah Johnson”.

Tom Horn

A couple of others which might be called westerns:

Quigley Down Under

The Mountain Men

Windwalker

90 posted on 03/11/2017 2:43:57 PM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of incompetence and corruption.)
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To: nickcarraway

“McCabe and Mrs. Miller” was an interesting western.


91 posted on 03/11/2017 2:51:11 PM PST by Cecily
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Wonderful read. A lot of backstory, I really enjoyed this and now I want to watch every one of them again with a better understanding.


92 posted on 03/11/2017 3:05:33 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Psalm 73; Nicojones
I still have "BLONDIE!" echoing in my ears after all these years>

For me there are two scenes indelibly sketched in my memory of this film. First, the gang start off with a murderous intention as they find out where their quarry is. The ugliness of one of the faces stands out.

Next, the scene in the cemetery. The haunting sound again and again, as Elie Wallach acts as the half crazed seeker of buried gold . The shots of the gravestones in a very erie setting are well done. Unforgettable is the bad guy, Tuco. He runs crazily looking for the right gravestone. Archie Stanton.

Of course one has to put aside authenticity here and enjoy. The scene of Tuco in the bathtub drilling his would be killer for example.

93 posted on 03/11/2017 3:16:07 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: nickcarraway
Totally agree all great movies...but one...I didn't like 'High Noon (1952)'. It wasn't in the western theme but was contrary.

It should have played out like the first episode of 'The Rebel' (Nick Adams), that's how you handle lawless gangs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQCDtiiTZw8&list=PLtMw5Y6TBaTPUT3PE1nmFJEUC_pNIdaI4

94 posted on 03/11/2017 3:19:58 PM PST by djone (How can the willingly ignorant spew such great opinions on what they know not)
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To: allendale
the Western motif was essentially American morality tales

High Noon was a tale crafted about Hollywood's persecution of communists in cinema. Gary Cooper represented the ethical, good hearted communist being outgunned by the McCarthy types.

Rio Bravo was made in response to High Noon. Rio Bravo depicted the good guys (those who were fighting communism) against the evildoers in Hollywood.

I used to like Gary Cooper until I read about what a philanderer he was and how he used to beat his mistress, Patricia Neal. (Also a favorite actress of mine.)

95 posted on 03/11/2017 3:21:51 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: yarddog

So true, but Kurt Russell was additive.

And whomever the directors was got the most out of the story and the actors.


96 posted on 03/11/2017 3:32:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

How is one suppose to ‘enlighten’ those who’s minds have been corrupted and desensitized to the point they can’t recognize homo-erotica when they see it?


97 posted on 03/11/2017 3:33:02 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: nickcarraway

Anything with John Wayne.


98 posted on 03/11/2017 3:34:49 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: sargon

Open Range has a great if not the best shootout ever put to flim.


99 posted on 03/11/2017 3:37:48 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: fella

My theme song; “I was born under a wandering star”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTymtAbaG08


100 posted on 03/11/2017 3:46:20 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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