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AMD’s Ryzen chips could spark price (or performance) war with Intel
marketwatch.com ^ | Feb 24, 2017 7:13 a.m. ET | Therese Poletti

Posted on 02/27/2017 12:16:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Chip maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc. released details Wednesday on its forthcoming Ryzen chip, including pricing that has the potential to set off a price war with its big rival, Intel Corp.

AMD

AMD, +6.87%

 said the first three chips based on its highly anticipated Zen architecture will be launched March 2 for the desktop PC and gaming market, with the most powerful chip in the lineup priced at half of what Intel

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  charges for a similarly configured chip. Investors were enthused by the first concrete news of the chip family, with AMD’s shares rallying almost 2%.

Chief Executive Lisa Su said at an event Wednesday in San Francisco that AMD had one goal in mind when it was developing the new chips. “We wanted to disrupt the PC market, we wanted to bring innovation, choice and performance to as many people as possible,” she said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech

1 posted on 02/27/2017 12:16:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There was a time in the late 90s/early 2000 that AMD had the faster and cheaper chips.... then they went to hell.... maybe they have turned things around.


2 posted on 02/27/2017 12:19:30 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This might have had something to do with Intel taking the completed, but unequipped plant, south of Phoenix, out of moth-balls and announcing a start up.

This is kind of like checkers. Jump. Then he jumps.


3 posted on 02/27/2017 12:21:17 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A year ago I almost bought a load of AMD stock. Of course I didn’t do it! smh.


4 posted on 02/27/2017 12:22:02 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: All
From Semi-Accurate

AMD’s Ryzen 7 1800X beats Intel’s i7 6900K at half the price

5 posted on 02/27/2017 12:23:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The best computers I ever had were Intel, the worst were AMD.


6 posted on 02/27/2017 12:26:10 PM PST by glasseye
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
AMD has disappointed the last several years. As we push the limits of Moore's law, it takes great and greater resourced to manage only incremental increases in speed.

I hope this hype is real, the CPU biz needs a shakeup!

7 posted on 02/27/2017 12:26:28 PM PST by Paradox ("Donald Trump", the biggest Strawman ever created.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am scouting for a low end 8 core and this might do the trick. Gotta get paid first.


8 posted on 02/27/2017 12:29:48 PM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: Paradox

Yep. I notice the comparable Intel chip to what I bought six years ago is only about 10 percent faster.


9 posted on 02/27/2017 12:32:28 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

10 posted on 02/27/2017 12:36:41 PM PST by DAC21
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The issue here is more than just the speed of the CPU.

You'll be surprised how much faster Windows 10 and modern Linux distributions run if you give the system enough RAM. Current production computers with 16 GB of RAM run surprisingly fast on most apps because with enough RAM, there is room to run the entire app in memory and you don't need the system-slowing memory paging to hard disk. In fact, even the old Intel Pentium Dual-Core CPU dating from circa 2009 (the models that support X86-64 CPU instructions) actually run Windows 10 Home Edition reasonably fast when you have 8 GB of RAM installed in the system.

11 posted on 02/27/2017 12:36:48 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: KC Burke
IT is More than checkers. This is the opening of a major chess match.

Intel's monopoly in the server market is the big game..

Intel vs AMD, IBM , Global Foundries and others.

12 posted on 02/27/2017 12:38:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
mmmmm......Ryzen chips. With black bean salsa.


13 posted on 02/27/2017 12:51:07 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RayChuang88
No dual core with Ryzen, only 4 core 5 core and 8 core i the consumer lineup.

The server chip named Nap;es will have 32 core 64 threads and possible 24 cores that is scheduled 2H of 17.

The basic building block for both consumer and server chips is the 4 core CCX. The computing complex including the L1, L2 and L3 caches.

14 posted on 02/27/2017 1:02:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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OOPS!!!

only 4 core 6 core and 8 core in the consumer lineup.

Lowest will be 4 core 4 threads. top end will be 8 cores 16 threads!

15 posted on 02/27/2017 1:08:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

double whammy. Intel misses their tick-tock, and AMD delivers world beating performance at a lower power envelope. Note: this is all for desktop, which by the way, is way overdue for a refresh — this (AMD) may spur a new wave of upgrades.

My personal thought is AMD will see 30-60$ by fall...


16 posted on 02/27/2017 1:40:24 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: glasseye

“The best computers I ever had were Intel, the worst were AMD.”

I’m running a Home Brew computer running an Intel 6700K CPU and Nvidia 1070 Graphics card.This machine is not only powerful,its also very quiet and energy efficient.

I’m very glad that I got that combo.More bang for the buck.


17 posted on 02/27/2017 2:20:50 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher; glasseye; BereanBrain
It has been almost a decade since I ran any Intel chips....on an FX 8120 right now.

Solid chips for browsing

Just posted this :

Intel slash-and-burns processor prices ahead of AMD’s Ryzen CPU launch

As the gamers will say .....Intels milking is over....

18 posted on 02/27/2017 4:03:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Because of my wanting to encourage AMD and discourage monopoly in the computer chip market I have only bought AMD chips for more than 20 years. I put together my own computers and have been pretty lucky with good AMD chips. The last few years however I have been contemplating moving to Intel because of the lack of competitive chips from AMD, there has been a real dearth of anything comparable to the Intel chips in the I7 range. This new AMD chip is good news I will be upgrading soon.

The thing is with Win-10 is that it really likes memory and SSD to operate on. I have converted all my computers to SSD for C Drives, they boot in a few seconds. If you purchase an app that will take advantage of multi-threading then there can be a dramatic speed up with multi thread multi core chips. What the programmer has done in those programs is hand different operations to different cores or sometimes a different thread on the same core. Then on every clock tick instead of one instruction being processed there can be several. When you compare a chip to another and think there isn't much improvement because the older chip is 2.8GZ and the new one at 3.5GZ isn't really realistic. Perhaps the old chip has a dual core with 4 threads while the newer chip may have 4,6,8 or more cores with up to 4 threads for each core or possibly even more. Dual core isn't the same as having two processors but it is almost as good if the software takes advantage of it. Having 6 or 8 cores really makes a difference if your software can utilize it. Most software, especially older stuff does not utilize multi threading but some important stuff does. You don't need it for office productivity but if you are printing a long document and working on something else you can do things in the background and never even notice a slow down. Perhaps you want to play a music video while you are working in Autocad or PHotoshop, you may have the youtube video on one screen and the other application on another screen all while you are printing a 200 page report in the background. You can do all this with no perceptible speed decrease with the right processor and software. Perhaps you are doing all this and need to answer emails using Dragon Naturally Speaking running at the same time. It used to be that just one of these programs would bog down your system, now you can do all at the same time and not notice a problem or slowdown, pretty cool.

If you work in front of a computer all day the speed increase is pretty nice.

19 posted on 02/28/2017 5:59:47 AM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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