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Lost Ancient High Technology In Egypt: Saw Marks And Drill Holes
YT ^ | 2/25/2017 | Brien Foerster

Posted on 02/25/2017 7:31:07 PM PST by combat_boots

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To: Windflier
I think it simply means they had a lot of time to chip away at the project, so to speak.

The Viet Cong made .45 ACPs from scrap metal using only files and HANDMADE drills. That takes lots of time, but is strictly low tech.

You can drill through glass with a wooden dowel and an abrasive. There are plenty of natural abrasives.

41 posted on 02/26/2017 7:01:08 AM PST by GingisK
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To: RegulatorCountry

The classic Clarke quote applies here:

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”


42 posted on 02/26/2017 7:41:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Windflier

More like a 1,000 tons according to this article.

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Baalbek.html


43 posted on 02/26/2017 8:28:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: GingisK
I think it simply means they had a lot of time to chip away at the project, so to speak.

Watch the video in the original post. It shows that there are marks on the stone of many ancient structures that are identical to those made by modern high speed drills and saws.

In addition, many ancient structures are made of the hardest varieties of stone, such as andesite, granite, dolorite, etc. Today we use diamond tipped tools at high speeds and pressures to cut such stone.

Look at the sheer scale of the works in Egypt alone, and try to imagine the investment of time and human labor required to quarry, cut, finish, haul, and set in place the tens of millions of individual blocks that sit there today, using copper chisels and stone hammers.

If that doesn't boggle your mind, consider also that those monuments were constructed with a degree of precision that we can scarcely match today. For example, the Great Pyramid is laid out to within three one hundredths of a degree of true north, and it's a 13 acre building!

We ourselves didn't possess the tools to measure that degree of accuracy until 1964, when the laser transit was invented. How did ancient people who didn't even possess the most primitive transit devices orient a structure of that side to such scientific accuracy?

The answer, of course, is that those ancient people had access to technology that has been lost to time. Its my personal belief that the greatest monuments in Egypt are far older than the Egyptians themselves.

I believe that the earliest Egyptians were brought out of the stone age by an older, much advanced race of people who taught them the basics of social organization, and who shared technology with them that allowed the Egyptians to build such massive and complex structures.

I also believe that those ancient Egyptians immortalized the principal figures of that parent race by weaving them into their religion as gods. It's my theory that the parent race moved on, and that the technology they left behind became lost, due to those tools being regarded as the sacred magic of the 'gods' by powerful rulers and jealously superstitious priests.

Modern people are so invested in the accepted paradigm of ancient history, that any physical evidence of such advanced tools will never be revealed, if found. In fact, a contingent of western scientists showed the Director of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, the tool marks we're discussing, he revoked their permissions to investigate Egypt's monuments.

44 posted on 02/26/2017 9:44:12 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

jack, im just going on the fact that God gave these people the abilities to do these things, whether it was some sort of mechanical ability to create something that helped them construct things, or even mental abilities, obviously something was done to allow for creation of these examples, they had something that was eventually lost, leaving us scratching our heads today.


45 posted on 02/26/2017 10:07:22 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Tucker39

agreed, there were ‘giants in those days’. Folks have come to NOT believe in what the bible says...and thus they are left baffled.


46 posted on 02/26/2017 10:08:39 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: meadsjn
A big bow drill using diamond-tipped bits would work. Africa had diamonds...

I watched a video last year in which a number of researchers were interviewing the owner of a stone cutting company at Giza in Egypt.

He examined some of the drill holes in the monument stones with an illuminated optical magnifier. He told the researchers that the holes were produced with a tool that rotated at higher rpms and greater pressures than any tools he's aware of.

You should have seen the look on that stone mason's face. He was honestly baffled at what he was looking at.

47 posted on 02/26/2017 10:12:09 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: ConservativeMind

It’s a slow read.


48 posted on 02/26/2017 10:16:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It's a war against humanity!" Donald J. Trump)
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To: wastoute
Somebody, long ago, was doing things we would struggle with today.


49 posted on 02/26/2017 10:24:25 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Speaking of Balbeck and the pyramids and their massive constructions using huge precisely cut stone, its estimated that the pyramids contain millions of stone blocks.

Since Egyptologists agree that these huge structures were built in limited number of years, each block of stone would have to be precisely laid in place every few seconds night and day for years.

To my knowledge no theory of construction accounts for the impossible time factor.


50 posted on 02/26/2017 10:39:47 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: GingisK
Drill holes in sandstone is not “high technology”. Stone work has ALWAYS been accomplished with drills that are hammered into the rock.

True, but how do you explain the drill holes found in solid granite on the Giza plateau?


51 posted on 02/26/2017 10:57:19 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
More like a 1,000 tons

You're right. I found another article that corroborates your data:

‘The Stone of the South’ at Baalbek, Lebanon is the largest worked monolith on Earth, weighing in at a staggering 1242 tons. It is even heavier than the ‘Stone of the Pregnant Woman’ which weighs an estimated 1000 tons, that sits on the other side of the road in the quarry. Neither of these stones made it to the main ‘Temple of Jupiter’, some 900 metres to the northeast, but some 400-ton and 800-ton stones did make their way to the temple, were raised 20 feet in to the air and were placed with machine-like precision into the foundations of this mighty ancient complex."

http://www.ancient-origins.net/opinion-guest-authors/forgotten-stones-baalbek-lebanon-001865

52 posted on 02/26/2017 11:04:54 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: wildbill
Since Egyptologists agree that these huge structures were built in limited number of years, each block of stone would have to be precisely laid in place every few seconds night and day for years.

Egyptologists also insist that all of the megalithic stone constructions of Egypt were produced with nothing more than copper chisels and stone hammers. Many of Egypt's ancient monuments are constructed of granite, one of the hardest stones in existence.

Many of the features of those monuments are of exceedingly fine and sharp detail, such as the famous granite statue of Rameses, which is also symetrical in three dimensions to a mathematical precision that can't be matched today.

53 posted on 02/26/2017 11:16:53 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
Same thing... bang away with the hammer, twist it, bang some more, twist it ....

You could assume high technology if the holes were glass smooth and and consistent diameter to .0005" or so.

54 posted on 02/26/2017 12:42:54 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Windflier
I just don't think the technology could be lost to time without any mention of it in any record, or even word-of-mouth story telling. Once machinery and the support industry exists to build it, I just don't see how it could disappear without a trace. I could build a steam engine all by myself following a near extinction event. I can also make a metal lathe and milling machine from scratch.

How could all of that equipment AND the know-how be lost? If they had high tech machines, they would require documentation to build it and maintain it. There would be schools and libraries full of that documentation. There would be mills to make make the materials from ore, and there would be shops in which the machines were built. Industry requires massive machinery that would, in fact, outlast those stupid pyramids.

55 posted on 02/26/2017 12:50:26 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Windflier

I have often thought that such equipment would have had to belong to someone besides those living on Earth for it to disappear so cleanly.


56 posted on 02/26/2017 12:57:05 PM PST by GingisK
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To: central_va

100 elephants all pulling together.

Does that mean all those ‘flying carpet’ remnants they found were really harnesses for elephants then ?? lol


57 posted on 02/26/2017 1:03:28 PM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: GingisK
Same thing... bang away with the hammer, twist it, bang some more, twist it ...

In solid granite?

Stop and think about the time and effort it would take to do that by hand - not to mention the fact that the only metal tools ever unearthed from ancient Egyptian sites, have been soft copper chisels, which can't put a dent in granite.

Have you seen the granite cores that have been found in ancient Egyptian digs? There are hundreds of them. Their existence points to the inescapable conclusion that the holes found in those ancient monuments were drilled out with core drills, such as we use today.

In fact, if you examine the core shafts closely, you can see the tool marks of such tools around the outer perimeters, and the lumpy, broken interior remains of where the stone cores were snapped off. Just like we do today.

The ancient Egyptians didn't even have iron tools to do that, much less, hardened steel, diamond-tipped core drills.

The kind of drilling you're talking about is done with a hardened steel rod, that is hammered and turned, then hammered and turned, until you pound a hole in the rock with brute force. That sort of drilling doesn't leave a circular pattern in the hole.

Look at the photos again and note the obvious circular tool marks on the interior of the shafts. Those are the exact marks left by modern core drilling tools.

58 posted on 02/26/2017 1:08:34 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: litehaus

If you harnessed 100 elephants you could lift just about any size stone imaginable.


59 posted on 02/26/2017 1:20:43 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GingisK
I have often thought that such equipment would have had to belong to someone besides those living on Earth for it to disappear so cleanly.

Just speculating here, but in answer to this, and your previous post, I'd have to agree that much of the machinery required to build those monuments must have left the area with those who built and owned it.

It seems likely to me, that the parent group of beings spent some length of time raising up the local stone age people to a civilized state. During that time, they would have used their technological prowess and equipment to build lasting artifacts, which may have even served other, unknown purposes, at the time.

Perhaps some of the more intelligent ancients were instructed in the use of some of this advanced equipment. Perhaps some of it was left behind when the parent beings moved on. Over eons, even the best steel machinery will succumb to the elements, and rust away to dust.

Then again, the parent group may have taken everything with them, leaving only memories of how the 'gods' invoked 'magic powers' to move heaven and earth.

It's also my belief that egyptologists have squirreled away found evidence that does not comport with the prevailing paradigm of Egyptian history. Unfortunately for them, much of the best evidence is right there in the stone for anyone to see.

60 posted on 02/26/2017 1:27:25 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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