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Trump considering large order of F/A-18E/F Super Hornets!
February 17, 2017 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 02/17/2017 11:49:05 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing

During his speech before a large Boeing crowd in South Carolina today, President Trump said he is considering a large order for more F/A-18E/F Super Hornets!

IMO, the F/A-18 is the all-around greatest fighter jet ever produced. It has proven itself as a reliable and effective all-weather fighter and is a great complement to America's arsenal of F-15's, F-16's, F-22's, and F-35's.



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As a long-time fan of the F/A-18, Trump's comment was music to my ears!
1 posted on 02/17/2017 11:49:05 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Gen Mattis likes these too.


2 posted on 02/17/2017 11:53:38 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I think this plane actually began life as the F-5 Freedom Fighter. Also a trainer.

It has just kept on evolving.


3 posted on 02/17/2017 11:55:21 AM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: BigEdLB

Make America Great again! We need these Hornets and the men to fly them! And the fuel to power them!


4 posted on 02/17/2017 11:55:45 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

This is the answer. Tons of 18s, then a bunch of the deadly F-16s and F-15SE.
Glad to see some common sense return.


5 posted on 02/17/2017 12:00:45 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: yarddog

No.
Completely different design than the Northrop F-5.
The F-18 began as the YF-17 that competed against the YF-16 for the USAF lightweight fighter competition. It was a completely new design, but lost to the YF-16, which became the F-16.

The YF-17 was brought back as the F/A-18 for the Navy, Marines and export customers.


6 posted on 02/17/2017 12:01:20 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: yarddog

Northrop P-530 then YF-17.


7 posted on 02/17/2017 12:02:25 PM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: yarddog

Neg, it started as the YF-17


8 posted on 02/17/2017 12:02:53 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The only danger is we don’t want to fall into the trap of spending too much on existing tech and not moving forward.

With that said, the F-35 is a very expensive boondoggle at this point and suffers from severe mission creep. The Super Hornet is still a match for anything anyone has, anywhere. It will perform admirably for the near to medium term.


9 posted on 02/17/2017 12:04:17 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Probably for the Marines. I can’t imagine why. LOL.


10 posted on 02/17/2017 12:05:25 PM PST by lodi90
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To: CivilWarBrewing

We should also start up production of the A-10 Warthog again. It is a proven design, and various changes to it have made an already great plane a superior one for ground support. It is highly survivable, kicks like a pissed-off mule, and has both better engines and WAY better avionics than when first built (similar to the Super Hornet vs. the original Hornet).

Best of all, you don’t need flight testing to know that it works - just build 500 of what you last built, plus spare parts sufficient to keep them (and the present fleet) flying for 20-30 more years. It’ll be VERY cost-effective - lots of bang for the buck.


11 posted on 02/17/2017 12:06:52 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

BA is up a bit right now. LMT is down.


12 posted on 02/17/2017 12:07:11 PM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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It’d be interesting to see a “shoot out” between an F18 and F16.


13 posted on 02/17/2017 12:08:39 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Ancesthntr
We should also start up production of the A-10 Warthog again.

"More hawg please."

14 posted on 02/17/2017 12:09:26 PM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Between the F-5 and the YF-17 there was a distinct evolutionary design process at Northrup/Grumman. Most were paper projects but the family connection is there.

That being said, the F/A-18 E & F are great planes, but real short legs even with tanks.


15 posted on 02/17/2017 12:12:46 PM PST by Lee Enfield (Liberate East Prussia)
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To: yarddog
No, The Hornet started as a "clean slate design" competitor for the USAF's light weight fighter program in the 1970s. It was designed by Northrop and was given the designator F-17. It lost that competition to the F-16.

The program was resurrected by McDonnell Douglas and presented to the US Navy as a replacement for fleet fighters and attack airplanes. That us how it got the designator F/A-18. Boeing acquired McDonnell Douglas and is now the manufacturer by title, but not concept or design.

16 posted on 02/17/2017 12:13:25 PM PST by pfflier
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You are both correct in your own way. The F-20 was an advanced variant of the F-5 which lost to the F-16. The F-5 was also a variant of the YF-17 which eventually became the F/A-18. The F-5 is still used for dissimilar air combat training and the T-38 is the trainer version, still in user with the AF for UPT.


17 posted on 02/17/2017 12:13:25 PM PST by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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To: Ancesthntr
No need to build a single new A-10 airframe. We have plenty of them at Davis-Monthan just waiting for new wing sets, new wiring, and new avionics. The basic airframes have plenty of life left in them.


18 posted on 02/17/2017 12:14:13 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

We need to keep the A-10 active too, the F-35 cannot compare.


19 posted on 02/17/2017 12:16:19 PM PST by DonkeyBonker (President Trump - Making America Great Again!)
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To: Cobra64

F-16 won the fly off against the F-17, but Lockheed hasn’t taken as good care of its legacy fighters (from General Dynamics) as Boeing has with those from Macdac.


20 posted on 02/17/2017 12:17:17 PM PST by Lee Enfield (Liberate East Prussia)
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