Posted on 02/04/2017 1:44:49 PM PST by calenel
And more importantly, isn't this exactly what we are seeing from the left in this country right now?
Yes it’s exactly what we’re seeing. They were also BOTH against property rights, so...
Didn’t someone liken these two to murder and forced suicide?
Could anyone that has studied that era of history explain where “fascism” came from, how Hitler came to be called one, and how the term ‘fascist’ came to be considered “right-wing?”
That part is easy. Hitler = bad. Hitler = fascist. Therefore fascist = bad.
Right wing = bad. Therefore fascist = right wing. Didn't you ever take logic courses?
Yep. The distinction is each of the different socialist brands hate each other.
It’s an academic discussion of these isms. When you are the victim, the blows feel quite similar.
Hitler and Mussolini were nationalists, which was considered to right of international communists.
RE Mussolini:
Would-be fascists and socialists in this Country would do well to remember how “Il Duce” wound up.
Strung up, upside down with his main squeeze next to him, full of bullet holes.
They should ask Nikolai Ceacescu about that too.
Ordinary decent people get to the point where they’ve had enough of leftist bullsh*t and react accordingly.
It won’t be pretty.
This quote was a big light bulb for me on the whole issue you are questioning:
Although our modern socialists’ promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under “communism” and “fascism.” As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, “the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.”
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.
— F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom
This was written in the mid- to late-1940s by a trained contemporaneous economic observer of the European scene, Freidrich Hayek. If you have not read The Road to Serfdom, you should. It isn’t that long.
It’s like two different street gangs fighting for turf. The International Socialists (Communists) and the National Socialists (NAZIs) were all thugs.
Communism: From each according to his ability; to each according to his need.
Fascism: From each according to his social classification; to each according to his social classification.
Capitalism: From each according to his ambition; to each according to the value of his productivity.
The only thing worse than a Fascist is an Anti-Fascist.
Notice that Communists never used the term “Nazi” to describe the Germans, they used the term “Fascist”, because “Nazi” was short for “National Socialist”, which would be an admission that they were fellow socialists.
Communists and fascists are two sides of a single coin. A communist dictator is commonly also a fascist, since “communist” refers to goals or theories and “fascist” refers more to methods of governance.
Hugo Chavez, for example, was a communist, and he governed as a (corrupt) fascist.
Not much difference between Socialism and Fascism. The goal is the same, tyranny.
Fascism was more of a marketing ploy. Sell to the masses as the new and improved Socialism.
The only difference is the people who get put into the camps.
Fascists are a political party set up by Mussolini.
Socialism is a way of governing.
Saying “I’m a Socialist.” is like saying “My religion is Christianity.”
Saying “I’m a Fascist” is like saying “My religion is marriage.”
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