[colorado tanker]

so it appears the South was short on constitutional grievances against the North

Northerners have been taking note of that since the Compromise of 1850 and Fugitive Slave Act.

[Jim W N]

so it appears the South was short on constitutional grievances against the North

Northerners have been taking note of that since the Compromise of 1850 and Fugitive Slave Act.

Of course. The North won so they were right. The North was right so they won. The South lost so they were wrong. The South was wrong so they lost. That's the usual line. I haven't found it very common to actually look at the constitutional issues without bias in a discussion.

This thread should be interesting in seeing these details unfold.