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Russia Unleashes Artillery in Eastern Ukraine
War is Boring ^ | January 31, 2017 | Robert Beckhusen

Posted on 01/31/2017 6:33:11 AM PST by C19fan

One of the most characteristically Russian methods of warfighting is the heavy use of artillery. In Syria, Russian artillery gave a boost to a Syrian army badly depleted by years of heavy fighting. In eastern Ukraine, combined Russian-separatist forces continue to exchange artillery fire with the Ukrainian army on a regular basis.

(Excerpt) Read more at warisboring.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: artillery; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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Stalin called artillery The God of War.
1 posted on 01/31/2017 6:33:11 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Media just trying to stir the pot.

So I guess McCain will pop up...........again.

2 posted on 01/31/2017 6:35:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

And Soros . . . making the Russians wet their pants.


3 posted on 01/31/2017 6:36:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Sacajaweau

Another ridiculous, failed, destructive war - initiated by Obama, Clinton, and John McCain.


4 posted on 01/31/2017 6:50:34 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Sacajaweau
Media just trying to stir the pot. So I guess McCain will pop up...........again.

Image result for trump

Donald Trump: 'Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time'

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns
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Trump says NATO is obsolete but still ‘very important to me’

Reuters
January 16, 2017

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said NATO was obsolete because it had not defended against terror attacks, but that the military alliance was still very important to him, The Times of London reported.

“I took such heat, when I said NATO was obsolete,” Trump told the newspaper in an interview. “It’s obsolete because it wasn’t taking care of terror. I took a lot of heat for two days. And then they started saying Trump is right.”

Trump added that many NATO members were not paying their fair share for U.S. protection.

“A lot of these countries aren’t paying what they’re supposed to be paying, which I think is very unfair to the United States,” Trump said. “With that being said, NATO is very important to me. There’s five countries that are paying what they’re supposed to. Five. It’s not much.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-nato-obsolete-still-very-important-004548554—finance.html?ref=gs

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Russia Deploying Tactical Nuclear Arms in Crimea

Obama backing indirect talks with Moscow aimed at cutting U.S. non-strategic nukes in Europe

BY: Bill Gertz
October 10, 2014

Russia is moving tactical nuclear weapons systems into recently-annexed Crimea while the Obama administration is backing informal talks aimed at cutting U.S. tactical nuclear deployments in Europe. ..."

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-deploying-tactical-nuclear-arms-in-crimea/

5 posted on 01/31/2017 6:56:25 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Mike Pence, from the VP debate on Oct 5, 2016, on the subject of Obama, Putin and Russia:

“When Donald Trump and I observe that, as I’ve said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, that’s stating painful facts. That’s not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin — that’s an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”

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Also from the Oct 5, 2016 first VP debate...

QUIJANO (Moderator): I want to turn now to Syria. Two hundred fifty thousand people, 100,000 of them children, are under siege in Aleppo, Syria. Bunker buster bombs, cluster munitions, and incendiary weapons are being dropped on them by Russian and Syrian militaries. Does the U.S. have a responsibility to protect civilians and prevent mass casualties on this scale, Governor Pence?

PENCE: The United States of America needs to begin to exercise strong leadership to protect the vulnerable citizens and over 100,000 children in Aleppo. Hillary Clinton’s top priority when she became secretary of state was the Russian reset, the Russians reset. After the Russian reset, the Russians invaded Ukraine and took over Crimea.

And the small and bullying leader of Russia is now dictating terms to the United States to the point where all the United States of America — the greatest nation on Earth — just withdraws from talks about a cease-fire while Vladimir Putin puts a missile defense system in Syria while he marshals the forces and begins — look, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered American leadership.

It begins by rebuilding our military. And the Russians and the Chinese have been making enormous investments in the military. We have the smallest Navy since 1916. We have the lowest number of troops since the end of the Second World War. We’ve got to work with Congress, and Donald Trump will, to rebuild our military and project American strength in the world.

But about Aleppo and about Syria, I truly do believe that what America ought to do right now is immediately establish safe zones, so that families and vulnerable families with children can move out of those areas, work with our Arab partners, real time, right now, to make that happen.

And secondly, I just have to tell you that the provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength. And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in Aleppo.

There’s a broad range of other things that we ought to do, as well. We ought to deploy a missile defense shield to the Czech Republic and Poland which Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pulled back on out of not wanting to offend the Russians back in 2009.

QUIJANO: Governor, your two minutes are up.

PENCE: We’ve just got to have American strength on the world stage. When Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, the Russians and other countries in the world will know they’re dealing with a strong American president.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html

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And...

PENCE: What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

And all the while, all we do is fold our arms and say we’re not having talks anymore.

To answer your question, we just need American strength. We need to — we need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region, and in the immediate, we need to act and act now to get people out of harm’s way.

6 posted on 01/31/2017 6:59:51 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Senator Jeff Sessions on Putin...

March 26, 2015

Interview with Jeff Sessions: U.S. and Europe "Have to Unify" Against Russia

excerpt...

What do you expect next from Russia?

Sessions: Well, there's a danger that they may continue this overreach. They just solidified power in Georgia, in South Ossetia. That was I think in the last week. Pressure is still on Ukraine. We don't know whether the Minsk Agreement will hold, I don't think it's holding very well now.

We have the Estonians, the Lithuanians, the Romanians, they're very worried. This is reality, I wish it weren't, but I'm afraid it is. It needs to be clear that Russia knows that there will be a high price to pay if this behavior continues.

If Minsk breaks down, at what point does the president have to act and supply Ukraine with lethal weaponry? What is the breaking point? We know from what Victoria Nuland said that the administration hasn't decided yet.

Sessions: From what I understand from this conference, I think it's clear that Germany has said publicly that they will support harsher sanctions and more military support if the Minsk Agreement fails. And that will be key.

Merkel has worked very very hard to establish a relationship with Putin and Russia. It's been a good-faith effort. If it fails, I would hope that Europe and the United States would have to unify and push back more firmly against Russian overreach. ..."

http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2015/03/interview_with_jeff_sessions_us_and_europe_have_to_unify_against_russia_111076.html

or,

https://web.archive.org/web/20150709024356/http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2015/03/interview_with_jeff_sessions_us_and_europe_have_to_unify_against_russia_111076.html

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"In a Montgomery speech in March 2014...he [Sen Jeff Sessions] called for international scorn toward Russia for its aggressive actions in Ukraine and, before then, Georgia.

"I believe a systematic effort should be undertaken so that Russia feels pain for this," Sessions said then. "Because if you don't act now to make some sanctions against Russia then why will they believe in the future that we're going to impose sanctions or do anything aggressive if they move forward to take all of Ukraine, all of Georgia?""

Sessions, not that long ago, was calling for more sanctions against an expansionist Russia that was rattling U.S. allies in Europe. And he regularly blamed the Obama administration for what he argued was an overly optimistic and weak foreign policy, including a decision to scale back planned missile defense sites in the Czech Republic and Poland.

“There’s no good solution now. The bottle of milk has shattered on the floor and you can’t put it back together,” the Alabama senator said about relations with Russia in the aftermath of the annexation of Crimea.

Sessions has also pointed to Russia’s record as justification for a robust missile defense system, which has deep roots in north Alabama.

“Russia’s recent actions in Georgia remind us that country, which we once hoped was on a path to greater integration into the global world community, might again be seeking to restore old Soviet ideas of dominance throughout their neighbors and in Eastern Europe, all of which should serve as a motivation to move ahead with the necessary capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies from missile attack, in particular,” Sessions said on the Senate floor in 2008.

Two years later, Sessions voted against the New START nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia, in part because he thought Obama conceded too much ground to the Russians.

“Just signing an agreement on a piece of paper does not create security,” Sessions said. “A consistent, principled, just approach to our legitimate national defense, advocated clearly and forthrightly without misunderstanding, is the best way to have security in this dangerous world.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/15/sen-jeff-sessions-backs-donald-trump-russia-policy/88796584/

or,

https://web.archive.org/web/20161115103421/http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/15/sen-jeff-sessions-backs-donald-trump-russia-policy/88796584/

7 posted on 01/31/2017 7:02:12 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: C19fan
So NATO aided the pro Western/German/EU Ukraine Maidan Revolution which deposed a democratically elected government and supports the installation of puppet dictators in Ukraine.

The pro German Ukraine wants to do an ethnic cleansing of the mud blood Russian east Ukraine and world wide propaganda outlets oblige the narrative as a just war.

Russia enters the fray to protect The 80 percent of Eastern Ukraine that is Russian and a NATO/ Russo war breaks out. Videos of US special forces in Kiev doing metro warfare were taken and posted by Ukranian citizens and eventually scrubbed from the internet. While the hot war heats up, all gold reserves of Ukraine are taken from the country, the EMF insists Ukraine go into debt and borrow billions to run the country when they did not need to do so before the Maiden revolution. Puppet regimes are good for enslaving the populations they rule. The facts are easily forgotten when 'War is Boring" tells the tale.

8 posted on 01/31/2017 7:05:36 AM PST by x_plus_one (A man cannot know himself until he knows those who define themselves against him.)
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To: C19fan
So NATO aided the pro Western/German/EU Ukraine Maidan Revolution which deposed a democratically elected government and supports the installation of puppet dictators in Ukraine.

The pro German Ukraine wants to do an ethnic cleansing of the mud blood Russian east Ukraine and world wide propaganda outlets oblige the narrative as a just war.

Russia enters the fray to protect The 80 percent of Eastern Ukraine that is Russian and a NATO/ Russo war breaks out. Videos of US special forces in Kiev doing metro warfare were taken and posted by Ukranian citizens and eventually scrubbed from the internet. While the hot war heats up, all gold reserves of Ukraine are taken from the country, the EMF insists Ukraine go into debt and borrow billions to run the country when they did not need to do so before the Maiden revolution. Puppet regimes are good for enslaving the populations they rule. The facts are easily forgotten when 'War is Boring" tells the tale.

9 posted on 01/31/2017 7:06:24 AM PST by x_plus_one (A man cannot know himself until he knows those who define themselves against him.)
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To: PGR88

McKHAANNN!


10 posted on 01/31/2017 7:06:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: C19fan

Those people in eastern Ukraine just want to be free of the EU. Just like those 13 colonies.


11 posted on 01/31/2017 7:36:02 AM PST by McGruff (Drain The Swamp)
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To: McGruff

I dare say, that’s the dumbest thing a Russian has posted on here yet.

Russia is the original Terrorist state.


12 posted on 01/31/2017 8:00:39 AM PST by KOZ.
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To: McGruff

/facepalm


13 posted on 01/31/2017 8:06:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: C19fan

Some people think Putin is a god.


14 posted on 01/31/2017 8:08:45 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: PGR88

It’s Ukraine’s fault. They should do what Putin says. If they don’t, then he should kill them.


15 posted on 01/31/2017 8:15:28 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: KOZ.

Don’t you realize that Putin is fighting radical Islam in Ukraine. Just ask his cheerleaders. He’s the Paladin of Christianity. They’ll tell you.


16 posted on 01/31/2017 8:17:42 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: x_plus_one

Poroshenko was elected president of Ukraine on 25 May 2014. The puppet president, Putin’s puppet, was thrown out after he turned his guns on the peaceful protesters. Only Puin’s army can bring back the absolute control he desires.


17 posted on 01/31/2017 8:25:52 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: All

You all sound like a bunch of typical Democrats looking to start WWII. You have lousy international skills then want to fight to settle your losses.

Every major conflict of the US has been started by a Democrat with terrible foreign policies and a thirst for war as an alternative to diplomacy.


18 posted on 01/31/2017 8:31:32 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: elhombrelibre
They should do what Putin says. If they don’t, then he should kill them.

They tried doing what George Soros and Victoria Nuland said, and it didn't quite work out for them.

19 posted on 01/31/2017 8:33:04 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Face it. They screwed up. They wouldn’t bow or kowtow to Putin. Now, ten thousand of them are dead and 1.7 million are displaced. That should teach all of them a lesson, eh?


20 posted on 01/31/2017 8:36:05 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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