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Advice on in network out of network dispute(health Insurance)

Posted on 01/04/2017 7:49:06 AM PST by italianquaker

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We work with several doctors and consistently receive calls from patients who are requesting that we verify benefits and coverage for them before they make an appointment for services. Have heard the statement “But you’re listed as in their network” more times then I can count after I tell them the doctor is not in their network.

Insurance carriers combine and expand networks all the time and allow employers or third party administrators to use their networks without the provider agreeing to be in a specific part of their network.

Best bet is always have the doctor or service provider confirm your benefits before you are ever seen. Keep a record of the verifier’s name, date and time they gave you the benefits. You might even wish to have them email you the benefits they are quoting. You simply should never believe anything you read on the internet when it comes to insurance companies.


21 posted on 01/04/2017 9:35:25 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: cyclotic

Brah-VO! Good for you. Excellent.

Our new insurer has a “concierge” function. Supposedly, if you have any issue, you just contact them, let them know and THEY are to do the homework. I have yet to try it out, but maybe it will only be a part-time job now...


22 posted on 01/04/2017 9:45:15 AM PST by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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To: cyclotic

http://www.medicalclaimshelp.org/home1.aspx

from above link:

“Sometimes getting a medical claim paid correctly can be a real battle. It starts when a charge that should be covered is denied. You call customer service, and they tell you that it will be reprocessed. Then, in a few days, another denial arrives with a brand new denial code. You call again. It’s denied again. And it may stay that way if it’s stuck now in this health insurance claims adjudication netherworld where nothing is paid easily, if at all. “

Recently a clinic manager told me; “Resolving wrongly denied medical claims used to be a simple process. A biller working in our office would stamp “APPEAL” in big red letters on a photocopy of the claim, and mail it back to the insurance company. These days, you’d be wise to put the cost of that postage in the bank, and throw away both the APPEAL stamp and its red ink stamp pad because it won’t even make it past the insurance company’s initial computer screening. They’ll toss it into the trash and you’ll never hear anything back from them. Today, you need to get your ‘A-game’ on. Otherwise, you won’t see a penny.”


23 posted on 01/04/2017 10:04:18 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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To: italianquaker
FYI: - Now a days whenever I go for any procedure I call the insurance company and get them to tell me in advance what the out of pocket cost is going to be.


* I am in an insurance billing nightmare also. I had to go for an MRI.
*I called the insurance company and confirmed my specialist was in the network.
* My specialist called the insurance company and also confirmed they were in the network
* I was billed for over $3500. At no time did the insurance company ever tell me what the out of pocket costs would be . The insurance company insisted they needed the bill BEFORE they could tell me what they would pay.

I have pretty decent insurance and never had a bill like this before. After hearing about all these billing nightmares I am convinced someone used the wrong billing code but I am not sure what I can do about it since the insurance company will not respond to my letters.

I THINK the insurance company was negligent in not giving me more information about the billing process. If I knew in advance maybe I could have negotiated with the provider or delayed treatment since it was not an emergency. I don't want to be a whiner but I don't want to get taken advantage of.
24 posted on 01/04/2017 11:11:03 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: GOPJ

Our insurer denied an appeal in a way that made it very clear their people were either stupid, ignorant or blind. I chose blind.

In my response, I suggested the Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, their Nurse Practitioner and Appeals specialist be replaced with someone who can see and therefore be able to read.

I’m sure that one’s hanging on a wall somewhere. Of course, it was ignored.


25 posted on 01/04/2017 12:30:00 PM PST by cyclotic (Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves)
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To: Kid Shelleen

When bad goes to worse the best path might be to hire a specialist. Start with ‘free information’...

Claims specialists tend to charge between $50 and $100 an hour... Consultation is usually free.

free information at: www.medicalclaimshelp.org

Alliance of Claims Assistance Professionals - www.claims.org

Above links from Kiplinger Retirement Report


26 posted on 01/04/2017 5:41:55 PM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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To: GOPJ

thanks. I really appreciate it. This one has been driving me crazy


27 posted on 01/04/2017 6:11:44 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: cyclotic

LOL


28 posted on 01/04/2017 9:21:11 PM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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