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BOMBSHELL: (Major Scandal Uncovered) Pamella Geller And Robert Spencer (Trunc.)
Shoebat dot com ^ | 12-26-2016 | Theodore Shoebat

Posted on 12/26/2016 4:26:23 PM PST by OKSooner

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To: Mozilla

Worst part is she just likes to post reviews of films. Gone are the days she bashed The View and Oprah and less on the Islamic radicals. With the massive attacks recently you would think she would care. But Debbie is half adding it now. But Michelle Malkin did the same.


81 posted on 12/27/2016 2:39:44 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: Mozilla

Meant half assing.


82 posted on 12/27/2016 2:40:39 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: OKSooner
I'm curious to see what Dr. Sebastian Gorka says about this kerfuffle .


From (l-r) Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer, EDL’s Kevin Carroll, Atlas Shrugs Blogger Pamela Geller and EDL leader Tommy Robinson

83 posted on 12/27/2016 2:42:56 AM PST by Daffynition ( "The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder")
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To: Flaming Conservative; Mrs. Don-o; bboop

I don’t think this piece (by Shoebat) has anything to do with anti-Jewry. He may be as you claim, but the piece seems pretty well documented.

And as Mrs. Don-o pointed out, Spencer isn’t Jewish, he’s Catholic, or at least claims to be so. I’d personally like to see (hear) him explain his association with Stefan Herre.

Given all the great work Spencer has done exposing radical Islam on his website, jihadwatch.org, I’d hate to see all that go down the toilet just because he apparently has some connection to Herre, who, as Shoebat conclusively shows, is a Neo-Nazi piece of trash.

So Spencer needs to distance himself from that (as well as Gellar obviously, she also needs to distance herself from all the ultranationalist scum she has apparently found herself associating with). This all can’t be swept under the rug dismissing it as anti-Jewry on the part of Shoebat. If anything, Shoebat is being pro-Jewish by exposing these Neo-Nazi links.

Anyone on FR should be thankful for this, in my opinion it does no good to bury our heads in the sands of ignorance. This has the potential to forever contaminate a righteous stand against radical Islam with neo-nazi movements in various countries. Which plays right into the hands of the radical left.

These links needs to be severed now, repudiated and condemned. Or else any speech against the radical Islamic threat will be seen as just “more racism from neo Nazis”.


84 posted on 12/27/2016 3:25:10 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Mechanicos
Seems in other countries people in some groups who are NOT part of Geller’s organizations are attracted to the anti-Islam aspect.

That's simply wrong the article clearly proves that known Neo-Nazi types are part of the same organization of which Gellar is also a part (SION). Read it again.

85 posted on 12/27/2016 3:37:40 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

I did, he has a lot of smoke and mirrors and its guilt by association without proving his case.


86 posted on 12/27/2016 3:44:00 AM PST by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

Sorry, but this is just hand-waving...
If this would be about some liberal Democrat politician most here would be more than content with the evidence to see guilt by association.

Geller has some very unsavory figures in her network... and the case Shorbat makes is not unconvincing.

Perhaps it’s just that Geller has a poor judgement, but some folks have for some time the suspicion that Geller may be sort of an agent provocateur. In any case her approach has the inevitable effect of discrediting a viable anti-jihad political movement in the West.


87 posted on 12/27/2016 5:22:40 AM PST by SolidWood
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To: Mr. M.J.B.
Look at the byline, it's probably Ted.

Maybe it's just me, but Ted seems to be going his own way down into a lot of rabbit holes his father Walid doesn't follow him into.

Whether that's an editorial division of labor or a real difference of opinion I don't know.

Given that Robert Spencer is a Catholic, and a pretty traditional one at that, I was surprised to see this.

88 posted on 12/27/2016 9:50:53 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rusty0604

Yeah, I was very displeased about Trump’s comment because it showed lack of understanding of Islamic jihad and the danger it presents. And lack of appreciate of what Geller was doing.

But I think he’s learned more about Geller and Islam and is now up to speed.

I think that the Shoebat article is utter nonsense. I looked at the site and this article is in crazyland territory.


89 posted on 12/27/2016 10:42:31 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Rashputin

Thanks for pointing that out.

Geller and Spencer are gold. They’ve devoted (and risked) their lives for the counter-jihad.

I know less about Walid although what I have read seems appropriate.

This article (Ted) is just crazycakes.


90 posted on 12/27/2016 6:52:37 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: BeadCounter

Just adding on and someone mentioned it, it seems a low blow to call the EDL that name per the article. Otherwise, there’s not much of a problem in writing the article. If Theodore said those things in the past, that’s crazy but not just that, threatening maybe?

Pam’s fine, I like to hear her NY accent whenever she is on TV, I get a kick out of it.


91 posted on 12/27/2016 8:49:38 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: OKSooner

The author is Theodore Shoebat I’ve only heard of Walid Shoebat who has been a fairly reliable source of news in the Mideast. Walid started out as a Muslim (his father’s religion) and converted to his mother’s religion, Christianity. Theodore? His track is what?


92 posted on 12/28/2016 10:49:34 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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