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33 shot, 9 fatally, in Christmas weekend gunfire across Chicago
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/24/16 | staff

Posted on 12/25/2016 10:33:47 PM PST by umgud

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To: volunbeer

The “nation” did not create this problem. It is the result of a festering wound, which, if honestly addressed, is shot down by the race hustlers.

This rests solely on liberals and the black community.


21 posted on 12/26/2016 1:37:21 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t argue who is to blame, but at the end of the day too many of us sat on our hands and said nothing because we allowed the dumbasses that screwed it all up to shame us.

It is about the kids. We can write off the adults and many of the teens, but we have to make this an argument about kids. Pure statistics and not a care if somebody gets offended.


22 posted on 12/26/2016 1:43:40 AM PST by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: JohnBrowdie

It has less to do with marksmanship than the fact that doctors are used to saving them. I read that the Army sends its medics to Chicago hospitals to learn how to treat bullet wounds. Gotta keep the Army well trained, you know?


23 posted on 12/26/2016 2:23:41 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: umgud

More stats on Chicago violence than you can shake a stick at right here:

http://heyjackass.com/


24 posted on 12/26/2016 2:29:11 AM PST by exit82 (Making America Great Again begins with........me.)
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To: exit82

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 703
Shot & Wounded: 3604
Total Shot: 4307
Total Homicides: 783


25 posted on 12/26/2016 2:30:30 AM PST by exit82 (Making America Great Again begins with........me.)
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To: umgud

It’s not all that cold here.

L


26 posted on 12/26/2016 3:33:02 AM PST by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: samadams2000

Yeah. What are they doing over there on the South Side? What happened to the Blackstone Rangers, the Disciple? They better get up off their asses, or the whole city will be embarrassed. The rest of you. Aren’t their any jealous husbands or psychos? Don’t let’s fall below quota./s


27 posted on 12/26/2016 4:12:03 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

The marksmanship might be better if the gangbangers would stop holding their guns sideways.


28 posted on 12/26/2016 4:37:54 AM PST by EvilCapitalist (Lock her up!)
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To: umgud

#BlackLivesDontMatterIfWhitesArentInvolved


29 posted on 12/26/2016 4:46:14 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: umgud

I’m in Illinois. The weather has been very temperate for this time of year.


30 posted on 12/26/2016 5:15:38 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Fidel and Che are together again, and it ain't on a t-shirt.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I heard that blacks aren’t just moving from Chicago to safer suburban towns, but are leaving Illinois for better economic opportunities in other states.

And still vote for the democrats
31 posted on 12/26/2016 5:15:54 AM PST by uncbob
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To: ChiMark

Besides being the most ineffective Sheriff in the USA, Tom Dart is the most sued Sheriff. He has made shambles out of the Cook County Prison System and Law enforcement.


32 posted on 12/26/2016 5:18:33 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: umgud

Democrat city rule again proven to be disastrous.


33 posted on 12/26/2016 5:34:00 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: umgud

It would be interesting to know the total number of murders in Chicago?


34 posted on 12/26/2016 5:41:03 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Amen.... in spades


35 posted on 12/26/2016 5:42:51 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: ChicagahAl
Many of the blacks who have departed Chicago, did not necessarily do so voluntarily. They have been given Section 8 Vouchers that are location-specific. In part, this is due to the Obama Regime’s plan to spread lower-class blacks into neighborhoods across the country.

'Wondering if the felons that Obama released are getting their fair share?

36 posted on 12/26/2016 5:43:36 AM PST by Does so ("The Business of America is Business"--President Calvin Coolidge...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I sure wish we didn’t have so many elephants in rooms. The issue of black on black crime,black youth gangs,etc. Is rarely talked about openly””

Actually the issue of black on black is addressed frequently, but what isn’t talked about, ever, is black on white, black on Asian, and black on Hispanic crime. The incidence numbers are, frankly, staggering.


37 posted on 12/26/2016 5:44:17 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: cherry

Giuliani actually had a technique that worked wonders to clean up entire city blocks. And once cleaned up they were a lot easier to keep that way.

After identifying a bad block (he started with Times Square), you flood that block with police. They check everyone there for outstanding warrants, and arrest and ticket for *any* offense.

Typically the bad guys flee, figuring to come back after the police leave. However, out of their ‘hood, they have no support structure or allies or family, and do not know the “terrain”, which makes starting crime elsewhere a lot harder.

When the obvious problems are under control, a much smaller detachment of the police goes from door to door, getting to know everyone who lives there and visitors who belong there, on a personal basis. So they can instantly spot those they don’t know. So when the bad guys return, the police can zero in on them, making it very hard for them to commit crimes.

Then, when the block is stabilized, the majority of the police move to an adjacent block that also needs clearing, leaving the detachment behind as a block watch, and the process begins again.

The tactic was *very* effective, but President Trump could make it even better.

Once the crime part was under control, it could be augmented with a large contingent of social workers and maintenance men. They not only make sure that those living there are getting the benefits due them, but are also getting social services, medical care, their rental and other leases are fair, etc.

And then to fix the entire building, from bottom to top, so that it has good plumbing and electrical; the floors, walls and ceilings, elevators and stairs are in good repair; that there is good security and safety, etc. Refurbishment.

Also the landlord is informed that rents for existing tenants are fixed, and that tenants cannot be kicked out, so new tenants can take their place at a higher rent; nor can the building, or part thereof, be gentrified. This is the price the landlord pays for the refurbishment that they did not provide.

Since the infrastructure of the entire block is likely decrepit, it might need to get a “long weekend replacement” of new sewers and water, electrical, etc. So the street is torn up for a few days, before being covered with new roadway, sidewalks, fire hydrants and light poles.

If this all sounds very expensive, it is. But the zinger is that it is already part of the federal budget, and has been for many years, but has never been carried out.

But if done the Giuliani way, a block at a time, it will solve the problem for a century. Assuming, of course, that the city, county and state government are not permitted to foul it up with corruption and graft.


38 posted on 12/26/2016 5:47:46 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: umgud

The real one percenters. Who cause 99 percent of the problems.


39 posted on 12/26/2016 5:50:15 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: umgud

As long as they are killing each other, they are not killing anyone else. As long as they want to kill each other, let them have at it. That way the innocent do not suffer as much.


40 posted on 12/26/2016 5:52:11 AM PST by sport
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