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Two Big Reasons Why Russia’s Aircraft Carrier Is Having So Many Problems
War is Boring ^ | December 9, 2016 | Dave Majumdar

Posted on 12/09/2016 10:32:16 AM PST by C19fan

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Comes down to getting the right procedures and training the sailors to perform their tasks to a high level. Russia does not have that. Training and procedures have never been Ivan's strong points.
1 posted on 12/09/2016 10:32:16 AM PST by C19fan
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Where’s the pic of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang reverse engineering team?


2 posted on 12/09/2016 10:34:46 AM PST by Eddie01
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I think the only reason the carrier is there is to get practice.


3 posted on 12/09/2016 10:41:29 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Made In The USSR ?


4 posted on 12/09/2016 10:42:05 AM PST by butlerweave
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They don’t have inflight refueling that is carrier based.


5 posted on 12/09/2016 10:43:18 AM PST by Oldexpat
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We just lost two also...One in Dec 2015 and another in March 2106. Several sailors were injured in one of those mishaps.


6 posted on 12/09/2016 10:43:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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They’re using coal fired steam engines.


7 posted on 12/09/2016 10:44:13 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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We evolved.

They are trying to copy (and don’t know why).

The two problems:
Water
Planes


8 posted on 12/09/2016 10:44:36 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (LOTS of /s)
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True, but we are conducting vast numbers of flight hours compared to the fledgling Russian naval aviation.


9 posted on 12/09/2016 10:45:16 AM PST by Enchante (Hoping the Clintonistas are gone from our public life forever!!)
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IBTACC - In before the Anti A/C Carrier crowd.


10 posted on 12/09/2016 10:45:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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*** “Comes down to getting the right procedures and training the sailors to perform their tasks to a high level. Russia does not have that. Training and procedures have never been Ivan’s strong points” ***

They do not Trust their sailors, we had their Brass aboard (don’t remember if it was Kitty Hawk or Ranger) and they were in total disbelief that Enlisted were even allowed near the aircraft let alone involved in any of the Flight evolution’s.
They thought we were scamming them


11 posted on 12/09/2016 10:45:36 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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but Russia is eeenveenceeball!!!!

12 posted on 12/09/2016 10:46:07 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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If you weren’t operating carriers in the days of props, you are in for a LONNNGG learning curve when it comes to modern jets. It’s very evolutionary.


13 posted on 12/09/2016 10:48:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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If the Russians can get their ground crews to stop stealing the anti-freeze used by aircraft to prevent icing at high altitudes, to drink themselves dead with, then maybe... just maybe... they can figure out how to keep ships systems functional.

We saw the best Russia could put into the field in its tussle with Georgia.

A rabble of drunken looting bums with no leadership at all.


14 posted on 12/09/2016 10:52:52 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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The only way to learn to operate is to operate.


15 posted on 12/09/2016 10:53:28 AM PST by AndyJackson
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“I think the only reason the carrier is there is to get practice.”

Exactly. Only way to get practice is to practice. So they are doing it. Is it a shock that they aren’t practiced BEFORE? When the ship had mostly been gathering rust?


16 posted on 12/09/2016 11:01:45 AM PST by TalonDJ
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Russian naval aviation has been “fledgling” since the late 60s...


17 posted on 12/09/2016 11:07:30 AM PST by socalgop
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The U.S. Navy aircraft carriers are truly impressive, both in terms of men and equipment. I fear, however, that they will be sitting ducks when faced with the latest generation Russian and Chinese missiles.


18 posted on 12/09/2016 11:13:19 AM PST by tjd1454
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They need the software upgrade/bug fix from the US (stolen, of course).


19 posted on 12/09/2016 11:13:37 AM PST by dhs12345
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Soviets didn't trust their pilots either, their missions were managed, unlike the independence that our pilots have.

My soldiers were trained to do the job of their squad leader, platoon sergeant, and my job as the Platoon Leader.

That's what makes our armed forces so effective.

20 posted on 12/09/2016 11:14:25 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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