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To: MayflowerMadam

“My party is advancing stories of outrage over the generous tax incentives that Carrier received – some $7.0 million at present.”

First of all, since Democrats live their political lives according to labels and because of that they will never get it. The term “Democrat” and “Republican” is not an ideology, but a political party. A liberal is a democrat like a conservative is a republican, is just way to classify a group of voters, not necessarily their beliefs.

What I think Trump has achieved is to separate ideology into three components. The left, the right and the establishment. The establishment is the Democrat and Republican party. These are the John McCain’s and Joe Manchin’s of politics. These are the politicians who will drift in whatever direction benefits the establishment, both financially and ideologically. As an example, Both Conservatives and Liberals have an opinion of what Social Security needs to be, but ultimately that decision is made by the establishment. Basically, the establishment can be defined as “if it is considered a third rail, the establishment owns it.”

But back to Carrier. For Liberals, Carrier leaving represents Americans equally suffering and punishing the company with regulations that will benefit the unions until the company actually does leave and everyone gets fired. Then they blame the establishment republicans. For the establishment, Carrier leaving represents the continuing purchase of cheap goods and then blaming the establishment democrats. For Conservatives, Carrier leaving represents the intrusion of big government on business and blaming the establishment.

The author, is trying to reconcile the establishment, liberal and conservative actions and the liberal voters response. He cannot do that. Although ideologically I am diametrically opposed to Sanders, Sanders is right. Trump is right. The establishment is wrong. This is why they stole the nomination from Sanders and gave it to Clinton.

Carrier staying in the US is a major win for America. Once the regulations are cut back and taxes are lowered, costs will come down enough so that even though the product will still cost more with American workers, the profit will go up and the differential will be better tolerated by the shareholders and management..


34 posted on 12/04/2016 7:05:01 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Election 2016 - Best election ever.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Carrier wasn't going to lower their retail price after the move to Mexico and the converse is also true. All of this offshoring has little impact on the consumer either way. Except I believe all product made overseas in the third word is of suspect quality. It is buyer beware.

What offshoring does impact is the taxpayer and it also hastens the end goals of the socialist/communist which hate borders.

35 posted on 12/04/2016 7:11:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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