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The Latest: GOP could repeal, before replacing, Obamacare
http://hosted.ap.org ^ | 11/29/2016 | n/a

Posted on 11/29/2016 9:44:09 AM PST by heterosupremacist

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Latest on President-elect Donald Trump and his administration (all times EST):

12:27 p.m.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy says Congress could vote to repeal President Barack Obama's health care law before coming up with a replacement.

The approach could allow congressional Republicans to take swift action on one of President-elect Donald Trump's campaign promises - while putting off the hard part.

McCarthy wasn't specific on timing in his comments Tuesday.

But the California Republican suggested Congress could vote on a repeal while putting off the date for it to take effect. He said that could help bring people to the table to come up with the best replacement.

Six years after Obamacare became law, congressional Republicans have voted dozens of times to repeal it in part or full, but still haven't unified behind legislation to replace it.

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1 posted on 11/29/2016 9:44:09 AM PST by heterosupremacist
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To: heterosupremacist

OF COURSE THEY COULD! AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO!

Duh.


2 posted on 11/29/2016 9:47:13 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: heterosupremacist

good. let’s get it done. first day of the session wouldn’t be too soon.


3 posted on 11/29/2016 9:47:23 AM PST by dadfly
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To: heterosupremacist

Talking with my doc the other day, and he said that docs are frozen in place. They have no idea what to do, because THEY are the ones who really are the front line people telling patients what their insurance does and does not provide.


4 posted on 11/29/2016 9:48:28 AM PST by xzins
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To: heterosupremacist
But the California Republican suggested Congress could vote on a repeal while putting off the date for it to take effect.

Just how stupid do they think we are? "See? We repealed Obamacare! And the repeal will kick in any year now."

5 posted on 11/29/2016 9:50:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

exactly. the “repeal” that isn’t.


6 posted on 11/29/2016 9:51:34 AM PST by dadfly
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To: heterosupremacist

they should do it immediately
let the chips fall where they may
the longer this turd stays in effect the worse it gets

And the more money it will cost to get out of it


7 posted on 11/29/2016 9:52:37 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: Mr. Douglas
OF COURSE THEY COULD! AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO!

No! It should be repealed, but NOT replaced. The whole idea of Obamacare, if one listened to Pelosi, was to bring 16% of the economy under direct Federal control. This was and is not necessary.

Obligatory: DUH!

8 posted on 11/29/2016 9:59:48 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: heterosupremacist

How about repeal without replacing it?


9 posted on 11/29/2016 10:00:24 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Mr. K

Eliminate it on day one! Replace it just b4 the 2018 elections. Let the millennials have a bigly along with the term-limited go governors leaving office.

BTW-it just might be better to keep it until the premiums beginning on Jan, 2018 are revealed!


10 posted on 11/29/2016 10:01:21 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

excuse me: it was BIG SAY


11 posted on 11/29/2016 10:02:21 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Like Brexit.


12 posted on 11/29/2016 10:03:25 AM PST by The Westerner (None Dare Call It Treason)
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Re : Post #9

“How about repeal without replacing it?”

From your mouth to Trump’s ear...


13 posted on 11/29/2016 10:03:58 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: the_Watchman

No! It should be repealed, but NOT replaced.


Sorry. That is actually what I meant. First repeal. Then whatever happens, happens, if you get my drift. :-)


14 posted on 11/29/2016 10:10:46 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: heterosupremacist

And the problem is ???


15 posted on 11/29/2016 10:11:05 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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Re : Post # 15

“And the problem is ???” My only problem is I may be tired of winning.

:^)


16 posted on 11/29/2016 10:14:08 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Trump has a big job---to find all of the graft and corruption in Obamacare.

The Democrats nationalized 1/6th of the US Economy into a Democrat Cash Cow. E-v-e-r-y conniving Democrat voted for O/Care---parroting Obama's Big Lie "If you like your plan, keep your plan.

ALL the untraceable O/Care money from enrollments, fines, penalties, taxes, fees, and asset confiscation (from Medicaid users) goes to your "reliable, trustworthy government."

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Some observers note that the Democrat-controlled Senate passed Obamacare "after a series of unsavory transactions that purchased the aye votes of several shrewdly extortionate Democrats"....with a huge pile of money still unaccounted for.

The most unsavory was Landrieu's $4.3 billion "Louisisana Purchase."

THE PAPER TRAIL IS HUGE Sen Landrieu (recently lost her reelection bid) sold her aye vote in what Forbes Magazine dubbed "The 'Louisiana Purchase" that included a massive $4.3 Billion to Landrieu

FORBES REPORTED the Democrats’ nailed Landrieu’s support for Obamacare w/ a greenback bribe. Landrieu, critics believe, pledged her vote in exchange for some $200 million more additional federal funds for Louisiana. Except that, due to a drafting error, the law ended up giving Louisiana $4.3 billion: more than twenty times the assigned amount. MORE HERE http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

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BACKSTORY In the fall of 2009, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was trying to get the necessary 60 Dimocrat votes to pass the Affordable Care Act. He needed every Dim on board, which gave waffling senators a great deal of leverage. In Landrieu's case, she connivingly saw that selling her aye vote could get her maybe $200 million federal dollars. Obama complied. Reid chalked up another vote for Obamacare----not the measly $200 million but $4.3 billon was attached to the Obamacare bill earmarked for Landrieu.

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How $4.3 billion to Landrieu was calculatedly attached to the Obamacare bill, and how Obama and Reid failed to catcH and fix it, is yet another indictment of the Obamacare atrocity.

The $4.3 billion handoff to Landrieu should be investigated as an indication of how EVERY Democrat came to vote for Obamacare....and how tax dollars were laundered to get lock-stepping Democrats' votes.

17 posted on 11/29/2016 10:27:35 AM PST by Liz
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"Obamacare" is a sitting president's blunder of Ceausescu-esque proportions. In Obama's feeble mind, the ACA was not about healthcare.

Far from it.

The conniving Obama calculated the ACA to consolidate Democrat power that was supposed to install a permanent Dumbocrat majority. So much for that ding-dong idea....b/c 30 lockstepping Dumbocrats who voted for it were ousted in the 2014 Democrat Demolition Derby. Several retired knowing they could not be reelected.

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WHERE IS THE MONEY? O/care also allocated some $6 billion tax dollars----spending money for Dumbocrats ----which has yet to be traced.

The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to states and to offshore banks is almost palpable.

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REFERENCE ACA SEC. 4002. PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUND.

(a) PURPOSE. It is the purpose of this section of the ACA to establish a Prevention and Public Health Fund (referred to in this section as the ‘‘Fund’’), to be administered through the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Secretary, to provide for expanded and sustained national investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and help restrain the rate of growth in private and public sector health care costs.

(b) FUNDING.—There are hereby authorized to be appropriated, and appropriated, to the Fund, out of any monies in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated—

(1) for fiscal year 2010, $500,000,000;
(2) for fiscal year 2011, $750,000,000;
(3) for fiscal year 2012, $1,000,000,000;
(4) for fiscal year 2013, $1,250,000,000;
(5) for fiscal year 2014, $1,500,000,000; and
(6) for fiscal year 2015, and each fiscal year thereafter, $2,000,000,000.

(c) USE OF FUND.—The Secretary shall transfer amounts in the Fund to accounts within the Department of Health and Human Services to increase funding, over the fiscal year 2008 level, for programs authorized by the Public Health Service Act, for prevention, wellness, and public health activities including prevention research and health screenings, such as the Community Transformation grant program, the Education and Outreach Campaign for Preventive Benefits, and immunization programs.

(d) TRANSFER AUTHORITY.—The Committee on Appropriations of the Senate and the Committee on Appropriations of the House of may provide for the transfer of funds in the Fund to eligible activities under this section, subject to subsection (c).

(read how Democrat insiders got even more $$billions above)

18 posted on 11/29/2016 10:29:16 AM PST by Liz
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To: heterosupremacist

The repeal should absolutely come before any replacement. Trying to negotiate both at the same time gives the liberals too much leverage and will lead to a flawed replacement.


19 posted on 11/29/2016 10:52:48 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: heterosupremacist

Excellent choice!

Though I still think it should be “replaced” with a free market, which is something we did NOT have, even before commie care was decreed.


20 posted on 11/29/2016 11:06:07 AM PST by fruser1
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