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Archaeologists find groundbreaking Pilgrim settlement clues
http://nypost.com ^ | 11/24/2016 | n/a

Posted on 11/24/2016 6:14:50 PM PST by heterosupremacist

PLYMOUTH, Mass. — Archaeologists have pinpointed what they think is the exact spot where the Pilgrims lived in the years after landing in the New World.

Every American schoolchild knows the Pilgrims landed in Plymouth in 1620, but exactly where has been elusive.

Archaeologists from the University of Massachusetts Boston tell The Boston Globe they have discovered what is believed to be part of the original settlement, based on the discovery of a calf’s bones, musket balls, ceramics and brownish soil where a wooden post once stood.

UMass Boston professor David Landon says the discoveries are compelling evidence that a sliver of the original settlement existed at what’s known as Burial Hill.

The curator of collections at the Plimoth Plantation says the discovery will “absolutely change what we understand about that settlement.”

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'Mayflower in Plymouth Harbor' oil painting of the ship that, in 1620, brought Pilgrims to New England.

1 posted on 11/24/2016 6:14:50 PM PST by heterosupremacist
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To: heterosupremacist
and brownish soil where a wooden post once stood.

Are they sure the 'brownish soil' isn't the hole where the outhouse once stood?

2 posted on 11/24/2016 6:39:38 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Sounds like they found the exact spot where someone was in the outhouse and shot a calf with a musket. They’re going to have to find a lot more for there to be proof.


3 posted on 11/24/2016 7:11:16 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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Look at the area on Google Maps. I doubt there’s much of anything left. Only 53 of them survived the first winter, so they wouldn’t take up much space. It’s possible they kept the cabins close together just in case, so there may be something to it.


4 posted on 11/24/2016 9:52:27 PM PST by sig226
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While this was 400 years ago, that is nothing compared to the prehistoric stuff they find. Obviously the climate and building materials have a lot to do with it.

It makes me wonder though. Here they were - pioneers. Making what would end up having a HUGE impact in North America, and the world. To the point where we celebrate their success by giving Thanks to God.

I suppose in later years some of them realized how important of an experiment it had been, but those early years they were focused on survival. And the same goes for us I suppose - what huge important thing might we do some day, not even knowing that is where we are headed.

Still - it would have been nice if they had chiseled out their names and a date on a big boulder nearby!

5 posted on 11/24/2016 10:04:04 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve

Here’s a little trivia about the Pilgrims of Plymouth. The charter they were under from their sponsors called for them to settle further south on lands the sponsors were granted by the crown. The Pilgrims had trouble getting around the shoals off Nantucket and turned north to land in Plymouth. By founding their settlement outside the land grant they were no longer legally-bound to follow their charter. This allowed the new 1621 governor William Bradford to scrap the whole common wealth property scheme called for in the charter among many other obligations. Bradford assigned people private property tracts and full control of their property. The colony flourished resulting in the first Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving is a celebration of salvation from a failed socialist state.


6 posted on 11/24/2016 10:31:31 PM PST by Justa
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“By founding their settlement outside the land grant they were no longer legally-bound to follow their charter.”

Interesting. I was just thinking earlier today how Bradford got out of that part of the contract. IIRC, Bradford and some of the other leaders took on the debt of the colony (that the sponsors had advanced the group). So I was thinking maybe that was how they got out of it. (”Okay - your way won’t work, my bank will pay your $1,000 and we’ll do it my way.”) Perhaps a bit of both?

I really should read more on this time period. They must have had ships coming and going every once in awhile to trade supplies and messages?


7 posted on 11/24/2016 10:48:12 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve

When I was a young child in school, I won a trip to Cape Cod as a result of a demonstration I gave at a regional 4-H meeting. The trip to Cape Cod included a stop at Plymouth, Mass to see the symbolic Plymouth Rock. We went to the harbor where the replica of the Mayflower was, and we got to board the ship. That was pretty neat! And, while we were there, we got to see Old Ironsides, even if we didn’t get to go onboard. I got to board her some years later.

Then we went on to Plymouth Plantation which was really not very developed at that time. There were a few cottages built that we got to go through, and big logs were in cribs being sawed with men with huge hand saws to shear off the planks for the buildings. Everyone was dressed like Pilgrims.

I think I was somewhere around 10 years old at the time, and it was a truly memorable trip. If you have family, and you’re in the area, it’s a really good experience for the kids and I encourage you to consider it for a fun and educational family outing. The furniture in the houses at the Plantation are marvels of invention that even adults will be amazed by. Especially if you have inborn carpenter tendencies lol!

Another truly amazing trip for the family is a trip to Washington DC. That place is truly amazing....and well worth the trip. There is a ton to see and learn and if you really wonder if the democrats are right....you’ll find out for sure if you visit that city. Plan on several days visit because there is a LOT to see. Most of it is totally free, but even if it cost you a couple hundred per head, it would be more than worth it if you had it to spare. It’s awesome! And, there are some really good places to eat, too.

You want to prove to your children that revisionist history is false??? Go to these places. You’ll never forget it, and neither will the kids.

When I took my trip to DC, it was because I was visiting family for a wedding. They put us up with some church friends of theirs in Alexandria..what a beautiful home those people had. She used to work for the Washington Post, and he was an investigator of government investigators. Interesting people, and very conservative believe it or not.

He took us all around in his fancy car pointing out all the sights, and then parked the car so we could visit the sights. You’d be amazed at how HUGE Abraham Lincoln’s statue shoe is! It had to be somewhere around 2 1/2 feet wide and at least 4 feet long! The books just can’t convey the reality! Until I visited, I never knew that the Gettysburg Address, and Second Inaugural Address were etched in stone on giant walls.

The Viet Nam Memorial is directly across the street in the park across the way. You can’t help but be deeply emotionally touched when you read that 2nd inagural, go down those stars and enter into the Vietnam Memorial with the words Lincoln wrote about the scourge of war ringing in your heart. You look at that wall, and see an entire generation of very young men who died...

This country is truly amazing. It’s history is deeply touching. Don’t let anybody take it away. Go..see. Look at those big hills with the trees sticking out of them in Johnstown, VA and remember that civil war. It was all REAL..not just storys we read about in a classroom. Go! It will come to life for you! Bring your children so they can never be deceived or fooled by liberal liars! Show them the scriptures on the buildings in DC..placed there so that our leaders could never forget, or pretend not to ever have known!

Those pilgrims came here on dangerous seas in tiny boats during bad weather in an effort to worship God Almighty without kings or queens telling them which religion they had to practice this term, or be strung to a stretcher to pull joints out of sockets by a particularly barbaric religion who intended to kill.

Read the book the Light and the Glory, educate yourselves as to the true perspective of those who came here seeking freedom, and what that freedom really meant to them, and WHY they took the time to Thank God for their very survival a year after landing here on our shores.

There’s a reason why the Mayflower was blown to the North instead of to the south to Jamestown.

Many starved to death that first winter, but all would have died had they landed where they planned to. Teach your family what divine providence truly is! Take them there, show them! Revisionists can’t deceive them once they’ve seen the truth!

/off soapbox


8 posted on 11/24/2016 11:09:45 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: PrairieLady2

Great informative posting! Thank you.


9 posted on 11/25/2016 12:18:59 AM PST by octex
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To: heterosupremacist

That’s a beautiful painting.

However, I doubt they would have dropped anchor with so much sail exposed.

If accurate, even a moderate wind might have ripped them right off their mooring.


10 posted on 11/25/2016 1:20:14 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: PrairieLady2

“Teach your family what divine providence truly is!”

We went around the table today saying what we are thankful for. My 19 year-old daughter said “The Constitution”. I said I’m thankful that God’s providence guided our Founding Fathers.”

My wife and I met and married in NJ and went to Boston, DC, Philly, - never got to Gettysburg. Last summer we drove across the country to visit there again with two of our daughters. Some time with relatives, some in NYC with our more modern history (The 9-11 pools are very somber - some woman laid a rose on a name near us. People like us with real loss.) Then Delaware Crossing, Valley Forge, then Philly, then DC.

The original plan was geographical (NJ to DC). But - as we stood in DC with all of the huge buildings, it was also amazing to look back on those events in the Revolution - and what it all led to. Amazing.

And of course some drawbacks too. “So girls, do you think any of those guys in the first Congress, taking up the first floor and the second floor at the old courthouse in Philly; could they ever imagine a five-story building two blocks square just to house the Bureau of Agriculture?!”


11 posted on 11/25/2016 2:26:18 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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