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Hoax Urban Legend From February 21, 2007 : California School Teacher Tells Truth About "Protesters"
Eamil from California School Teacher | http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=002141;p=1

Posted on 11/14/2016 3:28:43 PM PST by Strac6

"As you listen to the news about the student protests over President-Elect Trump's approach to illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large Southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and a roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make the Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten

(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids

(MORE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America

(MORE AND MORE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!)

I have had to intervene several times for young substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them putas (whores ) and throwing things, that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled not only to be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

Americans, We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15, and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "political correctness" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.


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To: humblegunner; PIF

As you have correctly pointed out, this is not “news”. Nor is it, as others have pointed out, uncommon.

I have a close friend who teaches 5th grade in a “Tier 1” school in Milwaukee. What is described in the email just scrapes the surface as to how bad it really is. These students could not care less about their own future. The rates these dregs are created would astound even a calloused, work hardened individual such as yourself. The only one capable of turning this around at this point is GOD. He is not going to do it unless asked.

I don’t hear too many kids and ‘parents’ asking . . .


21 posted on 11/14/2016 4:51:22 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Strac6

True words


22 posted on 11/14/2016 5:19:24 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Could well be an old timer who was taught well


23 posted on 11/14/2016 5:20:12 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Strac6

And there are so many more stories of what happens in public schools in liberal bastions.

People kvetch about the Thin Blue Line, I am telling teachers are far more secretive. Say anything out of line, and you will never teach again.


24 posted on 11/14/2016 5:48:47 PM PST by Molon Labbie (In Safe Space, no one can hear you weep....No one cares either.)
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To: Strac6

I grew up and live in SoCal and currently live on the outskirts of the city in the mountains, However I drive into LA Daily,Pacoima, and she really is Sugar Coating everything. It was Nice like she claims 10 years ago, now it’s really a ****Hole


25 posted on 11/14/2016 6:23:44 PM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: PapaBear3625; soycd
No, I'll not dispute the observation that "our society's ability to support the underclass is finite; the size of the underclass is growing."

Having an improvident underclass burgeoning beyond the carrying capacity of all available support systems --- whether by illegal immigration (invasion) or by natural reproductive increase, or both --- is a real problem. But why would reproductive maiming of non-consenting women be the solution?

Wouldn't it just make more sense to strictly enforce existing immigration laws, eliminate the "hook" of "anchor babies," deport those who reside here unlawfully, and put a cap on every form of welfare benefit?

After that cap is reached, the options for the dependent mothers are: get a job or an income-producing gig, get a husband, avail yourself of the services provided by private charities (church-based and other non-profits), or relocate someplace else where the prospects are better.

Eliminate freeloading invaders; cap benefits; encourage whatever form of productivity or self-sufficiency people can manage. I've got all kinds of ideas on this (in short: a low-taxed, de-regulated gig economy which would re-install the bottom rungs of small entrepreneurship or workforce participation) but not enough time or space to elaborate the idea here.

All this is better, more conducive to an ordered and law-respecting society and more congenial to human liberty, than poisoning the drinking water with anti-fertility chemicals, or "treating" women against their will with Sangerite-Maoist-veterinary "medical" solutions.

This kind of respect for law and liberty is the very foundation of a free society.

Or so I have always believed.

26 posted on 11/14/2016 6:33:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It's better to be slapped with the Truth than kissed with a Lie." - Russian Proverb)
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To: soycd
To be clear, why would reproductive maiming of anybody be the solution?

There are just and effective ways to reduce or eliminate welfare dependency (which I outlined) which don't involve grossly unethical strategies of destroying other people's bodily integrity.

28 posted on 11/14/2016 6:51:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It's better to be slapped with the Truth than kissed with a Lie." - Russian Proverb)
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To: soycd
Even if I had confidence (which I don't) in your ability to detect, perhaps create a list, of people who have "evil brains," your broad moral defamation against "welfare breeders" does not work as a reasonable argument.

If you want to cut welfare, cut welfare. Period.

But don't try to justify reproductive maiming. This represents a degeneration into fascism.

30 posted on 11/14/2016 7:05:06 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It's better to be slapped with the Truth than kissed with a Lie." - Russian Proverb)
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To: Strac6; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

And ping to the homeschool list just so they can see what they are missing in not sending their children to public schools.

What he's reporting, especially in regard to the meal situation, is not so unusual according to what I've heard from reliable sources.

32 posted on 11/14/2016 7:22:51 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: humblegunner

At FR, we don’t just repeat what other news outlets (usually hopelessly liberal) say is news.

News validity is driven by 1, the topic, 2, its interest to conservatives, 3, its important to America and its body politic.

This contemporary posted insight to a current problem certainly qualifies as news, certainly more-so than the daily weather problems the networks will broadcast, the traffic accidents and killings the local TV stations will air, the sad sorrows of the Dems the NY Times will focus on.


33 posted on 11/14/2016 7:37:29 PM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Those are great ideas, but not even Trump is saying things like that. He only says he’ll deport the worst of the criminals. And people are losing their minds over even that mild statement...they’re rioting, etc. Last night Leslie Stahl asked Trump, “Are you reeeeaaallly going to deport people?!” in the same tone of voice one might say, “Are you really going to throw people into the ovens?!” There are now so many illegals here, and the media is so much on their side, doing any deporting at all is now considered controversial.

All I hope for at this point is that some illegals will self-deport if life here gets more difficult for them, and Trump’s wall will eventually slow down the invasion of new ones. I have little hope that our immigration laws will ever actually be enforced the way we want. As someone else said, only God can really fix this disaster now.


34 posted on 11/14/2016 7:56:50 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: Nea Wood; soycd

Thanks for this, Nea. In context, I did not have DJT in mind at all, and was not implying that *he* favored a fascist assault on women’s reproductive systems.

That Sangerite approach was endorsed-— and not for the first time -— by FReeper soycd, and it’s him I was refuting; not Trump.


35 posted on 11/14/2016 8:04:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It's better to be slapped with the Truth than kissed with a Lie." - Russian Proverb)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
... and put a cap on every form of welfare benefit? After that cap is reached, the options for the dependent mothers are: get a job or an income-producing gig, get a husband, avail yourself of the services provided by private charities (church-based and other non-profits), or relocate someplace else where the prospects are better.

That would be a preferred solution. Eliminating government welfare entirely would be the best solution. If a woman faced the prospect of having to support her own kid by the sweat of her own brow, working at Burger King or wherever, they would pay much more attention to their birth control methods.

Two factors would work against that, though:

1) The tendency of welfare moms to put their own comfort ahead of their baby's. We would keep seeing news stories of children being malnourished because of "heartless" caps on welfare payments.

2) Middle-class women would vote against it. If a poor woman does not have welfare as an option, one of her other options is to compete with working-class and middle-class women for the affections of guys with decent jobs, whether as wife or mistress. What welfare currently does, is take millions of young women out of the competition for the pool of desirable men, and there are lots of middle-class women who would want that to stay that way.

36 posted on 11/15/2016 3:29:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; soycd
But why would reproductive maiming of non-consenting women be the solution?

As an example of how arguments against limiting welfare would proliferate, look at your own statement above. The proposal in post #7 by soycd was to put contraceptives in the food fed to welfare recipients. There was no "non-consenting" aspect to it. A woman who did not want to eat food with contraceptive would have the option of getting a job and buying her own food.

I get the impression that ANY attempt to make benefits conditional upon women accepting measures to limit their producing more babies they cannot support, would be fought by you as being "non-consensual". Do you disagree?

Are you willing to impose caps on benefits, even if it results in women making their children suffer? If your solution is to take away the kids and put them up for foster care, what measures would you accept to discourage the women you take the kid away from, from producing more?

37 posted on 11/15/2016 3:41:12 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Strac6

Moderator Please request link on this article or pull it. Don’t forward this to people folks you’re being set up. I CLAIM BS ON THIS NON VERIFIED ARTICLE


38 posted on 11/15/2016 3:46:42 AM PST by Trump-a-licious
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To: Strac6
At FR, we don’t just repeat what other news outlets (usually hopelessly liberal) say is news.

Yes, thanks. And you will note your thread has been moved to "Chat".

Where it belongs.

If at all.

39 posted on 11/15/2016 4:46:19 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Trump-a-licious

You miss the point here. The original author probably sent the same fact-filled email again, due to the anti-Trump riots.

He simply updated it to reflect both the current stimulus and conditions.

Those conditions still remain the reality there, or worse. You don’t claim they are different, do you; that they have somehow miraculously improved under Obama with additional tens of thousands of illegals streaming across our open border?


40 posted on 11/15/2016 4:47:07 AM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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