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The Latest Scientific Discoveries Point to an Intentional Creator
CBN ^ | 11.07.16

Posted on 11/07/2016 8:46:21 PM PST by Coleus

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To: April Lexington

Life on a grain of sand? Depending on its size and irregularly, there could be hundreds of thousands of bacteria living (quite comfortably) on a grain of sand.


21 posted on 11/07/2016 9:38:56 PM PST by stormer
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To: Talisker

Fine thoughts, all.

I suggest reading Job. The battle between God and evil is here on this planet. We, as humans, are caught in the middle of it. One venue. One battle. Existence is finite and limited to this venue so God can demonstrate His saving grace through His son Jesus. This battle can’t play out in multiple venues because it can’t have different results in different places. Its here. God beat Satan here. We come to faith here. or not...


22 posted on 11/07/2016 9:42:22 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: stormer

Yes. And that grain of sand and that bacteria are here. Not somewhere else. The battle is here. Not there.


23 posted on 11/07/2016 9:43:28 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: FreedomStar3028
What is truly sad and downright depressing is that even if there is life “out there,”(I’m not talking bacterial, but intelligent life) there is probably very little chance of ever interacting with it. Since nothing travels faster than light, and even at light speed it would take years and years to get to the closest of our stellar neighbors that the whole life exists/doesn’t argument is moot.

There are many ways to argue this issue with you, but I think I found one that will give you heart.

The military black ops programs.

We know they exist. But what people don't realize is that the military doesn't just steal and hide the inventions for military use - it also hides the science.

So, there's hidden science. Paid for with tax dollars, kept under lock and key.

To put it simply, I believe someday that that secret science will take us to the stars. Because its precisely the type of science the military would be interested in stealing.

See, doesn't that cheer you up?

24 posted on 11/07/2016 9:48:23 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Coleus

A close look at DNA will hint that a finger was on the scale.


25 posted on 11/07/2016 9:55:26 PM PST by soycd
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To: Coleus
"Hugh says, “The Bible tells us that the more we investigate the record of nature, the more evidence we will find for God’s existence, for his handiwork in preparing the natural realm for our benefit, and for his purposeful involvement in our lives.”"

I've believed a similar theory all my life, except for his purpose in our lives. God/he/she/them have NO purpose other than to watch their creation as it unfolds. It's a being that our human minds can't comprehend who threw the cosmic physics out simply to see what would happen. I've never believed in the "singularity" that appeared out of nowhere. Physicists can't explain where the "singularity" (basketball supermass) came from. They never will.

There was a book called, "Conversation With God". The first one made sense about a being wanting to share his/their existence and created the Universe. Unfortunately, his sequel books were gobbly-gook.

My bigger question is if there is consciousness after the body dies. What is it? And if it does go on in some form, when did this consciousness develop? At fertilization? At 3 months? At six months? While traveling through the vagina at birth? Is it when children become sentient around the age of 10 or so?

The problem with all my questions above is NOBODY knows. All religions like to think they have the answer. As an agnostic, I have two thoughts: 1. When you die you don't know you're even dead like you didn't know a sperm was going to hit an egg before you were created or you don't know you're in REM sleep. 2. After so much time in this roulette wheel of the Universe, you develop a mind that can transcend the body's death.

I believe it takes a lifetime of trial and error and wanting to transcend to reach that plane after bodily death. I don't believe everyone reaches it. IMHO.

That said, I adhere to Christian/Judea ethics because they are built on compassion, empathy, sympathy, and the better of human emotions. Simply put, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Yeah, I know it's Biblical. Still, it works if all practice same, with a little reasoning thrown in.

26 posted on 11/07/2016 9:58:26 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: dp0622

There are that many stars?


Check out “GENIUS” I think episode 2 or 3. Hawking provides a visual demonstration of the number of stars in our galaxy alone, using grains of sand ... in fact a mound of sand built by bulldozers. And then he throws in the number of galaxies. This makes the unimaginable into the understandable.


27 posted on 11/07/2016 10:06:35 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife

I will. It’s so unfathomable. If everything has an answer then why are there so many stars?

It hurts my head.


28 posted on 11/07/2016 10:15:56 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: April Lexington
I suggest reading Job. The battle between God and evil is here on this planet. We, as humans, are caught in the middle of it. One venue. One battle. Existence is finite and limited to this venue so God can demonstrate His saving grace through His son Jesus. This battle can’t play out in multiple venues because it can’t have different results in different places. Its here. God beat Satan here. We come to faith here. or not...

Job is the zen book of the bible. Really read it carefully, and you find it to be solid rock, with your feet left hanging in space. On the one hand it allows no wiggle room, on the other hand your mind can't do anything but try to wiggle out of it - just like Job tries to do. It is literally an existential struggle.

Also, this planet and humanity may well be a bubble in the universe like you described. Something very unusual is going on here - very, very rare. I think there are many ETs here (both angels and demons) watching our struggle, as a race, across history, in amazement and profound respect. Jesus marked out the playing field - no one is here who's not a part of the game. Denial is rampant, but no one gets to sit on the sidelines.

29 posted on 11/07/2016 10:26:12 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dp0622
Why so man stars?


I think the Lord wish for us to look upon the night sky and be reminded of his greatness.
30 posted on 11/07/2016 10:28:43 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Well that would do it!!


31 posted on 11/07/2016 10:34:43 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Coleus

This is a logical fallacy, the idea that our planet is perfectly tuned to our existence in numerous ways so this proves a creator. But the problem is that if we came from nothing, the planet would still be perfectly tuned to our existence simply because we _could not exist_ anywhere BUT a place like this.

Also, this is another effort to use science to “prove” faith. Faith stands alone and does not need this sort of assistance.


32 posted on 11/07/2016 10:35:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: delete306

Yep, out of the likely trillions of stars there are some that harbor life, on those, the inhabitants are bound to think “Gee, I must be special.”

It’s just a matter of probability.

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Well then, go ahead and work it out.

Even here on life friendly Earth, the ratio of biomass to mass is about 3 parts in 10 billion, and it took 4.5 billion years for modern humans to appear.


33 posted on 11/07/2016 10:41:34 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: dp0622

Yes, conservatively that many. And then for extra fun, as many stars in the universe as there are, you get that many H2O molecules in 10 drops of water.
And also, a human brain has far more neuron connections than either of those numbers.

We are very complicated.


34 posted on 11/07/2016 10:44:56 PM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: DesertRhino

“That’s the thing about faith. If you don’t have it you can’t understand it. And if you do, no explanation is necessary.”


35 posted on 11/07/2016 10:45:06 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Coleus

While the probability of life as we know it is extremely low according to the available evidence, atheists can counter with something like the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. In other words, all possible universes exist, and we are naturally conscious in the one where life evolved.


36 posted on 11/07/2016 10:46:13 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Kartographer

You’ve brought my thoughts to words. Thanks.


37 posted on 11/07/2016 10:47:22 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life ~ Vote!)
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To: DesertRhino

Good Lord!


38 posted on 11/07/2016 10:56:16 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: DesertRhino

Good Lord!


39 posted on 11/07/2016 10:56:16 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Liberty Valance

“Everything has two explanations; One scientific, one divine, and its up to each of us to choose the one we believe.”


40 posted on 11/07/2016 10:57:39 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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