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Russia's Flotilla Flop
The Moscow Times ^ | Oct. 25, 2016 | Kevin Rothrock

Posted on 10/25/2016 1:06:43 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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1 posted on 10/25/2016 1:06:43 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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I admit, I read a bit of this hogwash but let me tell you, it is the Russians who are taking the fight to the bad guys. At this time, I’m not sure what side we are on. Do you


2 posted on 10/25/2016 1:40:21 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012

Not with the current administration.


3 posted on 10/25/2016 1:52:31 AM PDT by rickmichaels (I shouldn't have to press 1 for English)
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Russia will fight radical Iz Lame even if their ship has to limp all the way their, their planes launch with light loads, and the world laughs at them. In the mean time, the US Navy has Muzzie outreach programs and training sessions where officers have to wear high heels so they can identify with the oppression women face.

And people are laughing at the Russian effort?

4 posted on 10/25/2016 2:15:06 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Undecided 2012

unfortunately, Hillary backed Isis and armed them through Benghazi, so now we back enemies ..and attack our friends, obamma is the liar in chief, pure evil..


5 posted on 10/25/2016 2:44:12 AM PDT by aces ( Islam is the religion of the dead, Got Jesus?)
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To: rickmichaels

The Kusnetsov produces smoke.

This is because the Russians not only don’t believe in the bizarre fantasy of ‘moderate jihadists’ - they also don’t believe in the equally bizarre fantasy of Global Warming.

In any case their planes are modern enough.


6 posted on 10/25/2016 2:55:36 AM PDT by agere_contra (ISIS in Mosul are not being defeated. They are being redeployed to attack the people of Syria.)
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7 posted on 10/25/2016 3:04:32 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: rickmichaels
.. another popular joke, recycled dozens of times by different Twitter users ..

What a pathetic little brony this guy is.

8 posted on 10/25/2016 3:06:22 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (choo choo)
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from the article...


9 posted on 10/25/2016 3:18:11 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: rickmichaels
the images as proof of Russian military decline

On the other hand, we've spent untold billions on a carrier that can't launch aircraft, littoral combat ships that are headed to the scrapyard after a single deployment, and a fighter aircraft that is outmatched by everything except cost.

But we've got transgender troops! Ivan is definitely lagging behind us in this category.

10 posted on 10/25/2016 3:22:38 AM PDT by Drew68
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Pics of the carrier show 4 fixed wing aircraft on the flight deck. Nonetheless, Russia is becoming a player as we continue to be the world’s drunken abuser.


11 posted on 10/25/2016 3:39:34 AM PDT by lurk (TEat)
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To: rickmichaels

In the good old Soviet days, they had to man their capital ships (such as they are) with officers when they did foreign port visits. Couldn’t depend on the enlisted to 1. Look sharp, 2. Stay on the ship.


12 posted on 10/25/2016 3:54:33 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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13 posted on 10/25/2016 4:23:20 AM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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“the smoke is normal for a 30 year old ship, that runs on diesel fuel”. BS, was snipe on a 30 year old tin can, we make smoke like that was f**k up. Fuel/air ration wrong, Captain starts chewing ass. Only smoke that should be visible from her stack is a slight brown wisp, we called an economy haze. She uses pressure fired boiler, with super chargers, sort like our Garcia class in the 60s/70s. Super chargers were constant source of problems for us then and I suspect that is source of the Ruskies problems now.


14 posted on 10/25/2016 4:46:01 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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Laugh all they want. Russia is all in for her allies. Americans haven’t been all in for theirs since they found out they were massacring Christians.

This election doesn’t decide *if* there will be war, it decides which side we are on.


15 posted on 10/25/2016 4:50:23 AM PDT by marron
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Things like this illustrate how American leaders have betrayed us for the sake of get-a-long globalism. Literally all we had to do to maintain ourselves as the sole superpower of the world was keep our own 30+-year-old tech and not screw it up. Our carriers from the 70s would eat this thing for breakfast. Our tanks from the 80s still eat the world’s armor all day long. Our planes from the 80s and 90s, properly updated, are still cock of the roost. However, we’ve sunk countless trillions into military boondogles (both ops and equipment) that did nothing for us, and our diplomacy has been lacking since forever. Now it is the Russians flexing muscle while we trace construction blueprints for more expensive planes and ships. And SOME in America are happy that we’ve lost our supremacy in the world. Frankly it is easier not being the leader...so mission accomplished. We are now leading from behind, eating the smoke of this antiquated ship.


16 posted on 10/25/2016 5:02:35 AM PDT by siberianheat
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amen


17 posted on 10/25/2016 5:06:52 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: marron
Laugh all they want. Russia is all in for her allies.

Yeah...2 points for Russia:

1. Flat 13% income tax

2. Bigly against radical islamic terrorism.

18 posted on 10/25/2016 5:09:44 AM PDT by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth.)
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To: rickmichaels

The method of propulsion does not matter. It could be coal and still be an effective warship.


19 posted on 10/25/2016 5:40:58 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; Chode

I disagree. I doubt it could be effective. Engineering does matter, particularly in naval operations and warfare where critical functions like damage control make the difference between dead in the water taking on water, or continuing the mission.

There are some things the Soviets/Russians are good at, but naval aviation is not one of them. If propulsion is a flaw in this vessel, it is a gigantic flaw.

And if that major, most important aspect is flawed, how many other things, like firefighting infrastructure, ventilation, or just plain quality of work are critically flawed, just waiting to rear their heads at an inopportune time?

My guess is a lot. Doesn’t mean the US vessels are perfect, but they do work.


20 posted on 10/25/2016 6:02:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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