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Donald Trump Is Wrong—Immigrants Don’t Commit More Crimes
The Cato Institute ^ | September 27, 2016 | David Bier

Posted on 09/29/2016 8:15:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

1. They don’t address ILLEGAL immigrants, who already ARE criminals for being here at all; 2. Incarceration rates don’t show the true picture because so many are caught and released, or deported, or jump back across the border, and never convicted; 3. WTF is CATO, of all places, attacking Trump for? How could THEY possibly want Hillary? Is EVERYONE sold out?!


21 posted on 09/29/2016 8:31:27 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What are the odds...just a tidbit from the 92' riots.

'At a Cabinet meeting today, Attorney General William P. Barr said nearly one-third of the first 6,000 riot suspects arrested and processed through the court system were illegal aliens, according to a senior administration offical. Barr has not proposed any special effort to have them deported, a Justice Department spokesman said.'

22 posted on 09/29/2016 8:32:38 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So Cato cherry-picks Buffalo and two students as “proof” applied nationally to an issue which it has a vested interest?

Got it


23 posted on 09/29/2016 8:34:08 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Romeo + Juliet = True Love hilLIAR + Obambi = ISIS)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I guess possibly the majority 47 states, but somehow doubt the people in border states like Texas, Arizona and California would agree with the author, even if the people do.... the crime statistics dont.


24 posted on 09/29/2016 8:35:27 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: Joe 6-pack

Great analogy


25 posted on 09/29/2016 8:35:38 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is so frikkin’ stupid!

If they weren’t here then we would never have to even worry about them committing any crimes in the first place. Then there would definitely be less crime.

They’ve already committed enough crime when they illegally stepped foot on American soil.


26 posted on 09/29/2016 8:35:39 PM PDT by Bullish (Elect a Traitor... Get more Treason.)
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To: Talisker

I presume Cato is more partial to Gary Johnson.


27 posted on 09/29/2016 8:37:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Illegal immigrants are all committing crimes, without exceptions.

They are illegally in another country.

Also, every crime committed by an illegal is a crime that would not have been committed by an illegal.

It’s simple logic. Also, Donald Trump did not say this about “immigrants,” but of illegals.

Get your head out, Cato.


28 posted on 09/29/2016 8:38:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What part of ILLEGAL do they not understand?


29 posted on 09/29/2016 8:39:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The mere act of being here illegally is a crime.


30 posted on 09/29/2016 8:39:33 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Aren’t ILLEGAL immigrants committing a crime by default? They’re here ILLEGALLY ... These morons are the ones lying when they use the blanket victim group “immigrants” when we mean “ILLEGAL” immigrants.


31 posted on 09/29/2016 8:39:40 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

100% of illegals commit at least one crime. We have allowed the Left to control the dialogue too long, separating or conflating illegals and legals to suit the point they wish to make.


32 posted on 09/29/2016 8:40:56 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: ConservativeMind

To clarify:

“Also, every crime committed by an illegal is a crime that would not have been committed by an illegal if that person was not here.”


33 posted on 09/29/2016 8:42:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I have reached the point that I am sorry I ever gave Cato any credence at all.

Somehow this nitwit is equating someone like a friend of mine, a legal immigrant and civil engineer, with a MS-13 tattooed gang who sneaks across the border.

They are, in his eyes, part of EXACTLY the same pool.

So since she is quite law abiding that means he will be as well.

This is, of course, nonsense.

34 posted on 09/29/2016 8:43:20 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Rosanna Rosanna Dana but without the nevermind...illegal immigrants are criminals 100% of the time. Legal immigrants had nothing to do with what he said.


35 posted on 09/29/2016 8:44:34 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Hating Islam is the natural consequence of caring about people in the Middle East, including Muslims)
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For legal ones this might be true. They often went through some effort to get here and they know that any crime is grounds for deportation.

Now when you are talking illegal aliens and what are quaintly termed "refugees" you are undoubtedly right.

36 posted on 09/29/2016 8:46:29 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
They are cherry picking the g-d damned data....

ILLEGAL ALIENS kill and main thousands of CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS every g-d damned YEAR!

AND it is all PREVENTABLE!

Of course we can't use the "If we can save just one life" argument that libs use all the TIME to try to take our guns....

37 posted on 09/29/2016 8:47:59 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: rockinqsranch

95% of the outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 95% !!!!!!

David Bier has been drinking too much beer.


38 posted on 09/29/2016 8:53:39 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

David Bier’s an idiot... First we’re talking about illegals... NOT immigrants.

Second, ANY crime they commit is one more than would have been committed if they had stayed in their home country.


39 posted on 09/29/2016 8:54:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (If Lester Holt's too stupid to ask follow-ups without an ear piece he should be disqualified.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The left is always so “cute” with their straw man arguments against Trump. Trump never at any time claimed that “immigrants commit more crimes.” We have far too many propagandists out there, even (especially?) ones posing as “intellectuals.”

The relevant point about illegal immigration is that zero of the many crimes illegals have committed in this country would have happened had the laws only been enforced. Over 25,000 illegals have been convicted of homicide in this country. Those people would not have died, except for the policies of the left and the open-borders Republicans. They have a lot of blood on their hands.


40 posted on 09/29/2016 8:54:24 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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