The MC.200 was underpowered. This was rectified by installing a licensed Daimler 601 in the MC.202.
It was undergunned but a very hot ship. Took too many manhours to produce though it was pretty.
Posted on 09/21/2016 8:36:24 AM PDT by C19fan
That was one BAD ASS fighter plane!! Dick Bong shot down over 40 “Japs” with one.
....and then there was the P400...AKA a P40 with a Zero on its tail.
The Brewsters best service was for the Navy to learn things that went into the Wildcat and others. The Finns used it well. Its even likely that the single highest scoring specific aircraft in WWII was a Finn Brewster that with various pilots shot down 41.5 planes.
Not pilot, a specific serial numbered aircraft.
But when people criticize the Brewster for not being able to dogfight against a Zero, its important to remember that nothing in 1941 could do so. A Spitfire, a 109, a Wildcat, etc. Nothing even came close and never really did.
Zeros were beaten by well used energy tactics, not by a maneuvering angles fight.
Probably early model F-84B/C, there was quite the scandal with them being declared unfit for combat in the late 40's.
The Air Force blew millions on them to make at least 100 corrections, but they were still awful. They were withdrawn by 1952.
It was the F-84E and later G that went to Korea.
P-400 was a devastating ground attack aircraft at Guadalcanal.
The above book is an autobiography of a Japanese Torpedo bomber pilot who ended up shot down and had to endure weeks of their attacks while waiting to be evacuated in late 42’ It’s the only first hand account I’ve found of the Japanese there.
Only $3 on Kindle.
Good read, anytime something went wrong, he keeps trying to find something to crash his plane into, but his crew talks him out of it...
“or P-40 was suicidal”
I admit that refined tactics helped but P-40s dogfought with Japanese on a number of occasions and won. Suicidal is an exaggeration of the record.
Brit pilots were rather condescending to American and Australian reports of this and kept trying to turn with Japanese fighters since the tactic worked so well vs. the Germans.
They even deployed a very experienced Spitfire squadron that attempted this. They were cut to pieces within days.
It was, but as a *fighter*...not so much.
The Russians had most of their leading aces flying P-39s. It was the equal of 109s below 15,000 until the most advances ones showed up late in the war.
But the Russian use was perfect for the P-39, low and relatively local. The pre and early war P39 and P40 were both extremely maneuverable by mid to late war standards.
Of course, as air combat matured, maneuvering was quickly recognized as far less important than speed and power combined with a high service ceiling.
But even the very last Mustang, 109, or Spitfire, or Hellcat could never turn as tight as a 39 or 40.
Of course, that means almost nothing if you cannot outrun your opponent.
The Zero and Oscar were the ultimate in maneuvering, and by late war were slaughtered by less maneuverable fighters they could never outrun.
But many better German planes fell to an inferior P-40 or 39 when someone decided to “dogfight” instead of using their best tactics.
Probably not. The Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG) at Davis-Monthan was used as a storage/regeneration facility. When I was there it was the AMARC (Center instead of Group). This is likely somewhere else.
I was stationed there in the early '90s and gave tours through the Boneyard. I know since the 40s they were there to store and preserve aircraft for future possible use, so they wouldn't have stacked 'em like that, but there were other boneyards in the desert southwest where aircraft were sent to be scrapped, so they didn't much care how they were treated.
Side note, when I was there, they had an Apache helicopter that we were told was slated to be delivered to Iran for the Shah. Never delivered because of the rebellion and the Ayatollah. Brand new, never used, except for moving it around.
And yet the Baron was seriously injured, and on another mission died in the Triplane, which went from being one of the best fighter aircraft to something much less in a rather short period of time.
(note: This is from memory, so if my memory is faulty, please forgive)
the 210, essentially a redesign of the 110, had much of the same drawbacks, albeit a bit faster than the 110.
the 410 was a better step forward, and was used in a nightfighting role against RAF lancasters.
the concept of the 110 was good, but generally, they struggled against Spits, and even hurricanes in late 1940.
I am not good at posting pics, but the italian aerflotte fighter..MAcchi C200, was a bit of a sled....
The Fokker Triplane never was the best fighter, it was way too slow even when first deployed.
It couldn't outdive or outrun Allied fighters at the end of 1917 when first deployed and thanks to it's lousy engine it had a lower ceiling too.
The Germans were fascinated by the Sopwith Triplane, much more than the Brits were who withdrew the type rather quickly.
tommy mcguire amassed 38 kills in his...
The MC.200 was underpowered. This was rectified by installing a licensed Daimler 601 in the MC.202.
It was undergunned but a very hot ship. Took too many manhours to produce though it was pretty.
I’m now reading “My Br4other’s Keeper” - about foreign pilots fighting the 1948 Israeli War of Independence with the ragtag aircraft the Israelis were able to scrape up - specifically the underpowered ME109s from Czechoslovakia.
Seems the Czechs main plant that made the excellent original powerplant for the ME109 burned down and so they used under-powered Junker engines instead.
Pilot said that on takeoff the plane had a tendency to loop to the left and on landing, loop to the right. They still were ably to knock down some Egyptian Spitfires though. An ideological and gutsy bunch.
“the concept of the 110 was good, but generally, they struggled against Spits, and even hurricanes in late 1940.”
The 110’s were excellent at hit-n-runs, especially against bombers, and they were faster than the Brit fighters, except the Spit, and even they had to be pre-positioned to catch them.
The tactical error was trying to dog-fight with them. The Spits just turned inside them, and cut’em to ribbons.
As I said, when the 110’s were allowed to “free-range” in the fighter-bomber role, they were devastating, as Russian and English Airfields learned.
The Germans were forced to use them as long-range escorts in the bomber-protection role, and they were out-classed by the shorter-range fighters they encountered over the UK. In Russia, they were allowed much more operational freedoms.
I think you mean the Avia S-199, the Czech built Me-109 clone.
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