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If Congress Defunds Internet Giveaway, Will it Backfire? [aw!m vanity]

Posted on 09/16/2016 1:05:30 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

Will Defunding the Internet Giveaway Backfire? [aw!m vanity]

President Obama is allowing a key contract to expire on September 30 -- the IANA functions contract with ICANN.

Republicans such as John Thune assure us that congress will defund the transition.

I'm no legal scholar, but how in the world is defunding going to prevent that contract from expiring?

As I understand it the contract requires the federal government to fund certain internet functions. If we have a government shutdown, those functions aren't funded. So it would be a double whammy -- Executive Branch fails to renew contract while congress refuses to meet funding requirements.

A double violation the contract from two branches of government.

Checkmate.

Please explain how this is not one of the stupidest plans in legislative history?

Obama would love to call their bluff in the name of 'international fairmindedness'.

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A Safer Plan -- Impeachment Threat

As I see it the only sure-fire solution is the one our Founding Fathers had expected congress to adopt.

According to many sources what Obama is doing qualifies as a High Crime -- an impeachable offense.

According to Senator Grassley and others it is unconstitutional to undermine the federal government's property rights.

ICANN might be a privately owned organization [and poorly conceived to pinch pennies back in the 90s] but its purpose is to serve as nonprofit 'contractor' that accomodates the federally run internet.

Back to the key word: unconstitutional.

Other opponents plan to sue the federal government for the criminal nature of this scheme.

Key word: criminal.

Either accusation also means 'impeachable'.

Here's what I consider the worst accusation of all -- moral turpitude.

ICANN's mission is to help expedite freedom. Now Obama conspires with ICANN to suppress freedom of speech. Is that not moral turpitude? Few Americans would like such a scheme.

So IMPEACH. Rid us of the SCUM which so hates our free speech values.

And get it done within days. You can still have a shutdown at the same time so long as the creeps no longer impede contract renewal.

After all we have the internet. Impeachment doesn't need to take much time anymore.

Use it or lose it. And dethrone any leader in congress who gets in the way ASAP.

[More info and links coming up]


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1 posted on 09/16/2016 1:05:30 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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Deadline — ICANN’s contract must be renewed by September 30.

Basics for Understanding Obama’s Internet Giveaway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3464721/posts
— and listing/linking the senators and news sources sounding the horn.

Fairyland Fixes for O’s Internet Giveaway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3466481/posts

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ICANN Transition Even Endangers ‘.gov’ and ‘.mil’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3469586/posts

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/09-14-16-rosenzweig-testimony.

ICANN transition insider Paul Rosenweig warns:

1. Foreign powers will “indisputably have increased influence”.
2. Transition a “leap in the dark”.
3. ICANN planning to move overseas.
4. ‘.gov’ and ‘.mil’ “not assured by any enforeable mechanism”.

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Senator Grassley in ICANN Hearing [internet giveaway]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3469467/posts

Senator Cruz Set Up a Countdown Clock:
https://www.cruz.senate.gov/internetcountdownclock
[my system crashes even when I try to load a text-only cache.]

FIREWORKS Predicted at Today’s Hearing reg. Internet Giveaway [aw!m vanity]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3469224/posts

Yes ICANN Can. Downplay O’s Internet Giveaway at Your Peril
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3465347/posts

Open Letter of Concern by Senators Cruz, Lankford, and Lee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3463938/posts?page=113#113
[ICANN is stalling on specifics and holding secret talks with China.]

Open Letter by 25 advocacy groups incl. ‘Americans for Tax Reform’
http://docs.techfreedom.org/Coalition_Letter_IANA_8.10.16.pdf

More Specifics reg. ICANN’s Contract with US
http://freedomoutpost.com/obama-violates-federal-law-again-reliquishes-us-control-of-internet-to-private-international-body

Washington Examiner Report
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3460431/posts

The Wall Street Journal
http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-internet-giveaway-to-the-u-n-1472421165

Breitbart
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/29/icann-un-take-internet-oct-1

The [UK] Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3763094/The-United-States-control-internet-s-addressing-United-Nations-September-30-pledging-not-to.html

OBAMA READY TO CEDE AMERICA’S CONTROL OF INTERNET...
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/272568-internet-domain-handoff-takes-major-step-forward

Beta News
http://betanews.com/2016/01/24/the-clock-is-ticking-for-the-us-to-relinquish-control-of-icann

Related FR threads

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3463938/posts


2 posted on 09/16/2016 1:07:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Actually, *moral turpitude* means misdeeds involving some type of fraud or deceit.


3 posted on 09/16/2016 1:10:40 AM PDT by jazminerose (oective)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Impeachment at this point is not even close to a threat. Obozo will do what he wants with impunity, precisely because he knows the spineless congress will do nothing


4 posted on 09/16/2016 1:14:21 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The internet is no different than our phone system or National Highway he can’t internationalize it


5 posted on 09/16/2016 1:52:50 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Just pass a law with veto proof margin directing the contract be renewed. If you don’t get the margins, then take your case to the American people and as a last resort try the same useless funding games approach.


6 posted on 09/16/2016 2:57:20 AM PDT by JTHomes (Government is force.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The shutdown would be effective as they would have no money to print transgendered bathroom signs. Barry wouldn’t stand for that.


7 posted on 09/16/2016 5:13:50 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: Vendome

The internet is already international, and ICANN is the infrastructure, as you said, ‘the phone directory’.

Back in ‘98 congress and Bill Clinton worked out a compromise to get that infrastructure into the private sector.

The glue that holds that infrastructure together is the renewable the IANA functions contract.


8 posted on 09/16/2016 5:18:10 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: JTHomes

A simple majority impeachment vote in the House is easier than a veto-proof majority in both bodies. THEN you can hold serious debate.


9 posted on 09/16/2016 5:19:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: Nifster

‘Impeachment at this point is not even close to a threat.’

I see no better solution. What is your plan?


10 posted on 09/16/2016 5:19:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: jazminerose

Even by your definition ...


11 posted on 09/16/2016 5:21:48 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Then you are politically ignorant

Ryan? Mitch? You think either one of those spineless fools will impeach with an election looming?

All we can do is contact the critters in congress have you not watched as obozo violates the constitution and SCOTUS rulings with no repercussions? Unfortunately we can do motjing except vote


12 posted on 09/16/2016 5:40:21 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

What else has Congress done that backfired on them? The Congressional Republicans kissed obama’s ass until it was raw. What happened? The voters rewarded them by giving them a greater majority in Congress. Evidently, the voters approved of them kissing obama’s ass.


13 posted on 09/16/2016 5:51:14 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nifster

Can you think of a more workable plan?

If not, then please apologize for calling me ‘politically ignorant’.


14 posted on 09/16/2016 6:36:18 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: sport

And the voters will be so thrilled if Europe and China and Soros form a global policing system to wipe out ‘hate speech’ on the internet.

I realize the consultants are making this tough. But what is the most workable plan for getting that contract renewed?


15 posted on 09/16/2016 6:38:11 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: Nifster

‘Ryan? Mitch? You think either one of those spineless fools will impeach with an election looming?’

I already anticipated that. They can be replaced. And should be quickly if they get in the way.

But all of this is mute without more public awareness in a hurry.

I’m just trying to plug the leak here and people want to say there’s no point.


16 posted on 09/16/2016 6:39:51 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You are politically ignorant...,and naive beyond belief

You seem to think there is something that can be done in the next fourteen days....nothing has been done for the last two years....why would you think something would be done now? We as citizens have the capacity to call talk shows, call our congress critters, maybe even write a letter to the editor...,that’s it that’s all.

This has been ignored by all the people in congress thinking it was no big deal. And as usual other nations interests took priority over Anerican interests.

Obozo is not afraid of impeachment because he knows congress is full of cowards. He is not afraid of ordinary citizens because he has fen building up his army of BLM and S JW over eight years.

Are you willing to go to war over the ICANN? They only other option is elect Trump who actually knows how todo and undo deals


17 posted on 09/16/2016 9:14:53 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

With all due respect your delusion runs deep


18 posted on 09/16/2016 9:16:01 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Nifster

This is a revolutionary coup on freedom of speech and all we need is informed citizens. Then impeachment and ousting of calcitrant leaders could be equally revolutionary by the same mathematical proportion, but I’m wasting my time with defeatists.

You call me names, and I’d rather be called ALL of them than be called a DEFEATIST.

A longshot? You bet.

But we need to make up for lost time. This is not the way to be vigilant citizens.


19 posted on 09/16/2016 1:04:58 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama's High Crime: giving away Internet on Sept 30. Please check profile.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I am not a defeatist. I have been contacting my critters for two years. I continue to do so. I am a realist. You are so pitically naive it is not funny.

That is not name calling that is truth


20 posted on 09/16/2016 2:33:35 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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