[PROCON]

The only thing that surprises me about it is that he and his supporters don’t seem to see it at all.

Who his supporters are or were is not relevant, what is relevant is that he's right on this issue.

[chris37]

He may well be right on the issue, but it boils down to the old if a tree falls in the woods, and there’s no one there to hear it...

He has rendered himself totally ineffective.