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Cop Shoots and Kills Unarmed Deaf, Mute Man as He Tries to Communicate Using Sign Language
The Free Thought Projec ^ | August 21, 2016 | Matt Agorist

Posted on 08/22/2016 10:56:55 AM PDT by No One Special

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To: PAR35
That must work better in the liberal northeast than it does in the Carolinas.

Because in North Carolina shooting them is easier than arresting them for resisting?

101 posted on 08/22/2016 1:10:08 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: COBOL2Java

I would think that if I was a deaf mute I would carry a card that said that along with a note book and pencil for communication with those who don’t understand sign language but that is Monday morning quarterbacking.


102 posted on 08/22/2016 1:17:39 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: tina07

I work with two gentlemen who were born deaf. They both drive.


103 posted on 08/22/2016 1:21:23 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Gear Up)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I would think that if I was a deaf mute I would carry a card that said that along with a note book and pencil for communication with those who don’t understand sign language but that is Monday morning quarterbacking.

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Most deaf people today socialize almost exclusively with other deaf people or friends who sign.

Years ago, deaf people learned to read lips and even speak, once signing became available deaf people didn’t see the necessity of reading lips or even speaking, signing is dramatically easier and is many cases faster.

About 50 years ago while in college I befriended a deaf/dumb kid. He could speak a little and could read lips pretty good because his parents put him in a deaf school. He didn’t know know about signing until one day he met someone in school who signed. That was it, he no longer wanted anything to do with the school and was very angry with his parents for hiding this means of communicating from him. He refused to communicate with his parents unless it was signing. He and I communicated mostly by writing notes. Watching him with his deaf friends was amazing, they communicate very easily and fast with each other. They have many universal slang signs that basically substitute for a whole sentence. The problem is that when signers only are away from signers they are like a fish out of water, nearly helpless.

Most of the deaf I have associated with have a horrible handwriting (scribble).


104 posted on 08/22/2016 1:35:33 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: No One Special

According to police, trooper Jermaine Saunders attempted to pull Harris over around 6:14 p.m. on Thursday. For an unknown reason, Harris did not stop and, instead, drove to his home.

During the pursuit, both cars became damaged and eventually came to a stop near Harris’ home.

“I was here in my driveway and I saw the highway patrol car come through and it was smoking really bad,” said neighbor Mark Barringer. “About 10 seconds later, I heard one gunshot.”

This part of the article interests me the most. I can understand the first part where Harris did not notice an officer was in pursuit. The part where "both cars became damaged" is where all innocence of Harris goes out the window. Something more was going on for both cars to get damaged and smoking. I wonder if Harris was on something?

105 posted on 08/22/2016 1:40:43 PM PDT by Marko413
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I would think that if I was a deaf mute I would carry a card that said that along with a note book and pencil for communication with those who don’t understand sign language but that is Monday morning quarterbacking.

Non-verbal deaf (as opposed to the term "deaf mute") often do that.

106 posted on 08/22/2016 1:42:19 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: marstegreg; nickcarraway

In many places deaf people are allowed to drive. But for at least 26 countries, deaf citizens are not allowed to have a license (“Living With Deafness”). Also in many of the states, deaf drivers are required to have a special license to be able to identify themselves as deaf.Nov 22, 2008
Deaf Driving - Lifeprint
www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/driving_and_the_deaf.htm

http://www.wfdeaf.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/WFD-Statement-on-Deaf-Peoples-right-to-drive-a-car-or-other-vehicles-updated-31-March-20091.pdf
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I googled it...that’s what I got.


107 posted on 08/22/2016 1:47:09 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: JAKraig
About 50 years ago while in college I befriended a deaf/dumb kid. He could speak a little and could read lips pretty good because his parents put him in a deaf school. He didn’t know know about signing until one day he met someone in school who signed. That was it, he no longer wanted anything to do with the school and was very angry with his parents for hiding this means of communicating from him. He refused to communicate with his parents unless it was signing. He and I communicated mostly by writing notes. Watching him with his deaf friends was amazing, they communicate very easily and fast with each other. They have many universal slang signs that basically substitute for a whole sentence. The problem is that when signers only are away from signers they are like a fish out of water, nearly helpless.

The ability to read lips depends on how well the individual can be assisted with hearing aids (there is a large and varied spectrum of decibel loss in deafness, as well as the type of deafness. Some levels of deafness cannot be helped with even the most powerful hearing aids).

Lip reading often provides less than 40% of what is communicated; throw in a mustache or someone who speaks fast and it gets even worse! Deaf individuals supplant the ability to read lips with their hearing aid(s).

My wife has enough hearing in one ear to be able, with her digital hearing aid, to discern just enough to carry on a conversation with most hearing people without signing. Again, it depends: mustache, crowded room, fast talker, and things go downhill fast.

108 posted on 08/22/2016 1:53:40 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: Mears; tina07

“Are emergency vehicles now going to eliminate sirens and klaxons because they are no longer necessary?”

Please!! He was deaf NOT blind! Could he not see the blue light special in his rear view mirror? Now if the cop was not flashing that I’d see there was a problem OR if it was one of those undercover models that did not have the blue lights on top (as they should! I’m against the undercover ones pulling you over) then yes...he may not have seen the blue lights flashing because he did not hear the sirens.


109 posted on 08/22/2016 1:54:32 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Just speculating, but I think his deafness, while a contributing factor, had less to do with this final altercation with the police than his emotional state. It sounds to me like he was an emotionally challenged person (perhaps brought on by his hearing impairment).

He had prior incidents with law enforcement. Strike one. Did being deaf/being emotionally challenged have anything to do with that? Maybe. May have contributed to both cars getting damaged. Was he trying to get home so someone could assist with communication? Perhaps. Adrenaline was likely a factor by that time.

Getting out of the car at the final destination instead of keeping his hands at 10:00/2:00 (sign language notwithstanding)? Yep, to a LEO, big no-no. I’ve been involved with LEOs, and you keep you hands on the steering wheel. Maybe he didn’t know any better - sad if so.

At any rate, I hope an investigation yields a satisfactory result. JMHO.


110 posted on 08/22/2016 2:05:26 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: Morgana

Thanks for clearing that up. I appreciate it. It just doesn’t seem as if they are giving the full story.


111 posted on 08/22/2016 4:34:19 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: PAR35
He has a history of not going easily.

BFD, is that an excuse to shoot him?

BTW Today is the 24th anniversary of the cops shooting unarmed Vicki Weaver dead as she held her baby.

Did she have it coming too?

112 posted on 08/22/2016 5:43:16 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: Marko413
I wonder if Harris was on something?

Lets assume he was on Everything, is that a excuse to kill him?

113 posted on 08/22/2016 5:46:30 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Just connect the dots. It’s easy as ABC.


114 posted on 08/22/2016 6:20:23 PM PDT by notatard?
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To: carriage_hill

http://thedailyhaze.com/jermaine-saunders-shot-deaf-man/


115 posted on 08/22/2016 6:49:38 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: marstegreg

“Are hearing impaired permitted to drive?
I am asking. I legitimately don’t know.”

That would be discrimination against the hearing-impared, doncha know. PC killed his guy who should not have been behind the wheels and be a danger to others on the road. But let us all crucify the cop.


116 posted on 08/22/2016 7:11:05 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sailor76

“BTW Today is the 24th anniversary of the cops shooting unarmed Vicki Weaver dead as she held her baby.”

Cops? No, FBI agents killed some Weavers. And the Weavers killed some FBI agents.


117 posted on 08/22/2016 7:18:15 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
And the Weavers killed some FBI agents.

Sammy Weaver shot a US Marshal in self defense, the jury agreed.

So, what's your point?

118 posted on 08/22/2016 8:10:04 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: sailor76

I was responding to your mistake that “cops” shot Vicki Weaver.


119 posted on 08/22/2016 8:12:18 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
Sorry, to me cops include any Feds, FBI, US Marshals and the local doughnut eaters.

Sorry

120 posted on 08/22/2016 8:17:33 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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