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Why do some folks hate Apple? It’s complicated.
Cult of Mac ^ | 10:00 AM, JULY 28, 2016 | BY DAVID PIERINI

Posted on 08/11/2016 11:07:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

Why do people hate Apple? Because they can.


81 posted on 08/12/2016 11:11:32 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Swordmaker
Just look at a photo of arrogant Steve Jobs. Makes you want a Windows pc. If Steve Wozniak were the face of Apple then they would have a bigger share of the market.
ping
82 posted on 08/12/2016 11:27:16 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: itsahoot
Why do you think that Apple customers only by Apple because they think it makes them look cool?

Didn't say it was the only reason. But I do think it is a big factor, based on how Apple is marketed.

When I took my GIS class we used Macs. In order to use the GIS software we had to boot them into Windows.

Given that Android software can do most if not more than my iPhone can do (have both) I see no reason to ever get another iPhone, let alone ever be a first time buyer of a Mac.

Of course the fact that their CEO Tim Cook has decided for me that buying an Apple product is also a political statement also takes me off of the returning customer list. What kind of business leader would purposely display open contempt for 50% of his potential customer base? An Apple CEO would, that is who.

83 posted on 08/12/2016 11:37:44 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998
FINALLY Apple is Liberal, always has been since I can remember:https://www.2ndvote.com/scores/apple

So, Apple is Liberal; remind me again what form of Govermenr Korea has? Seems to me that Apple employs tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Americans in middle class or higher jobs - you know in slums like Austin, Tx and Silicon Valley and Coperino, CA doing software and engineering work, retail stores throughout the US and the world. And this is apparently "bad". How dare Apple pursue a profit? Why that is outrageous, right? No other company in a capitalistic society would do that, or am I confusing your paradigm with the communist party?

84 posted on 08/12/2016 11:38:26 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Swordmaker

Isn’t it odd, that the people who are among the 90% market share just cannot stand that anyone does something different? Most Mac users are proficient at Windows; but few Windows users would even know how to turn a Mac on. Yet, these people insist we are wrong and foolish to try something outside their “norm”


85 posted on 08/12/2016 11:41:56 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: minnesota_bound
Just look at a photo of arrogant Steve Jobs. Makes you want a Windows pc. If Steve Wozniak were the face of Apple then they would have a bigger share of the market.

Not sure if you were being sarcastic... S. Jobs was a prick but he was the heart of Apple. He didn't make me feel like I had to compromise my values if I bought one of his products. With his death the company became just an overpriced gadget maker with a SJW flavor. Kind of like the Ben and Jerry's of the tech world.

86 posted on 08/12/2016 11:44:31 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw
Maddox had a great article about Apple users: (warning strong language) "One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't:"

That was a very well written screed.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

87 posted on 08/12/2016 11:44:43 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Swordmaker

Foxconn suicide rates are so low the put nets around their concentration camp factories.


88 posted on 08/12/2016 12:56:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: doorgunner69

LOL!

Anyone who can’t laugh at that article deserves to be laughed at.


89 posted on 08/12/2016 1:01:19 PM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: RedWulf

Funny...my iPhone 5S is three years old and has just as much battery as the day I bought it. Goes for a good 3 to 4 days on stand-by, 2 days of use.

Yours must just have sucked.


90 posted on 08/12/2016 1:22:42 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: central_va
Foxconn suicide rates are so low the put nets around their concentration camp factories.

At its highest, the suicide rate at all of FoxConn's factories, with their 750,000 workers, was lower than one per 100,000 per year, central_va. The suicide rate in the US is in the same age cohorts is 11 per 100,000 per year. These are facts.

FoxConn's CEO Terry Gou, in an excess of zeal, put up the nets around one factory's dormitories before it was determined that it was unnecessary. The real causes of the few suicides was that Gou had been paying the families of the deceased workers up to 22 times their annual pay in bereavement pay, over-and-above the normal amount of state paid workers compensation their deaths would have garnered.

The current suicide rate among FoxConn's 1.5 million workers now, and for the last several years, is effectively ZERO per 100,000!

The factories are not "concentration camps." People apply by the thousands for openings when they are available. People do not apply to work in "concentration camps", and you are an idiot, if you believe that.

91 posted on 08/12/2016 2:11:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: central_va
Foxconn suicide rates are so low the put nets around their concentration camp factories.

Incidentally. It is a known fact that those few suicides that did occur, were committed at plants making Microsoft Xboxes, HP Computers, Nokia Cellular phones, and Sony PlayStations! Not a single one happened among workers at a plant working on Apple products, or even closer than150 miles to one making Apple products! Again, facts get in the way of your talking points.

92 posted on 08/12/2016 2:16:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple makes $40B/year would it be asking to much for them to make their products in the USA? I know that makes me a silly nationalist but WTH?


93 posted on 08/12/2016 2:44:58 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RedWulf
It’s not cheaper. I never bought a second iPhone after my first slowed down too much to be useful after a software upgrade 1.5 years into the phone. They’re designed to be useless after 2 years of service. My Samsung on the other hand is still going strong 4 years later. I need extra storage on my phone for work which Samsung allows with a flash memory card. Over all value goes to Samsung.

What you’re mostly paying for with your iPhone is advertising.

It is less expensive. The iPhone 6S with 64GB is $849. Here is the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on sale from Amazon.com:


Yeah, that's right $959, $110 more!

94 posted on 08/12/2016 4:18:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

I can get the note 7 free right now by just signing an extended agreement.


95 posted on 08/12/2016 4:21:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Swordmaker

110 more for a phone that lasts 4 years instead of 2.


96 posted on 08/12/2016 4:22:23 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: central_va
Apple makes $40B/year would it be asking to much for them to make their products in the USA? I know that makes me a silly nationalist but WTH?

Try $53.4 billion last year. . . but Apple makes that amount world wide. In fact, central_va, Apple earns about 60% of that amount off shore. Are you going to argue that Apple should make its products proportionally where it earns its profits? If not, why not?

Apple also makes several of its products in the United States, but you don't want those facts to get in the way of your hatred, do you? It also accounts for over one million jobs in the United States. Again, you really don't like facts, do you? Apple has testified before the US Senate they'd LOVE to bring their profits home so they can be invested in the United States, but our confiscatory tax rates, the highest and most irrational in the world, makes it far too expensive to do so. That move would create far more jobs than what you propose, but it has been blocked every time by the Democrats in Congress who cannot see beyond the tax income they'd get if they could force Apple to bring home the money they've earned off shore!

As I mentioned earlier, Apple DOES make some of its products in the USA. The iMac is made in Elk Grove, California, and the Mac Pro is made in Austin, Texas. What other major computer model is made in the USA? Dell hasn't for over a decade. HP? Don't make me laugh. All I hear is crickets from you guys in answer to that question. A lot of the components of the iPhone and iPads are manufactured in the USA. You've been told all of these facts before, just as you were told the facts on the suicides before, so you now know the truth. . . but you continue to spout the lies in these threads. You've done this before. That makes you a serial repeat liar.

You refuse to learn from the factual data. In that you seem to act like a Liberal with the lack of truth in your statements.

97 posted on 08/12/2016 7:32:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: editor-surveyor
I can get the note 7 free right now by just signing an extended agreement.

. . . you can also get an iPhone 6S, or wait until September 7 or so, and do the same thing, getting an iPhone 7, also for "free". If you believe any of those are really "Free", I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Cheap. You are paying for it in your contract and then some. Your carrier is NOT giving you that phone for nothing.

98 posted on 08/12/2016 7:43:25 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: RedWulf
110 more for a phone that lasts 4 years instead of 2.

Doubtful. Apple phones have a far longer lifespan and a far better re-sale value than does any Android phone. Just check eBay for the prices of older phones. Even four and five year old iPhones command much higher prices than many much newer Android phones, even flagship phones of the top brands. That again is just factual.

Apple's iPhones Retain Their Value, Samsung's Android's Don't


The price of an iPhone 4 on eBay and



"As seen in the chart above, even after a new iPhone has been out for a full year, it still retains almost 40% (or more than $240) of its retail value. That figure drops to 24% ($156) after two years, when most people are eligible for an upgrade. That means if you bought the iPhone 5 when it came out in September 2012, you could still earn a significant amount of money this fall when the highly anticipated iPhone 6 is expected to be released.

Samsung Galaxy phones retain their value similar to iPhone. After one year, a Galaxy is worth almost 30% (or about $160) of its original retail price and almost 20% (or about $100) after two years. So Galaxy owners can expect to receive about $100 after two years when their carrier contracts have expired and a new model comes out.— Gazelle (whole sale purchase prices as of 2014)

So if your specious claim that Apple's iPhones were only good for two years were true, the resale value would be zero, not far above the value of the Android's resale value. Ergo, you are wrong. I retired my original iPhone which I got on June 29, 2007 from use as a phone in March of 2015, after it was handed down through various family members, but even in that month it was handed down to my three year old granddaughter to use as an iPod touch (just no cellular service), and it was STILL on the original battery which held 80% of its original charge capacity EIGHT YEARS LATER and still worked! It is still working fine.

My ex-wife got my iPhone 3GS and used it for four years until she got my 4S which she just traded in for a brand new iPhone SE this year. The 3GS was still on its original battery when it was sold, and so was the iPhone 4S which I got on October 14, 2011, and it has been in constant use by either me, my younger daughter, and then by my ex, until January of this year, a total of FIVE and ONE HALF YEARS on the same battery and has given excellent service. It only needed replacement because it took a bath in the kitchen sink and started acting kinky!

So much for your false "Two years" meme, RedWulf.

99 posted on 08/12/2016 8:25:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: PaleoCon Libertarian Hybrid

Not really - there are 3rd Party apps to deal with file transfer to and from iPhones/iPads for both Windows and OS X (soon to be released Sierra).

You don’t even need iTunes to update iOS (unless your device is full)


100 posted on 08/12/2016 10:49:47 PM PDT by TheBattman (A member over 15 years, yet my posts are "submitted for review")
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