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[Vanity] 30 million plus illegals would leave the United States were a war to start here
One-on-one interviews | 10 June 2016 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 06/10/2016 5:51:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: Mmogamer

No offense to some of you, but the premise here is absolutely silly. First and foremost, despite the badmouthing we read here and there, the U.S. military is second to none in the entire world. In fact, we enjoy great superiority despite the problems within our military.

Secondly, the problems with our military in recent conflicts through the past decades have been political vs. military. The military has never let us down. The elected leaders and nation have let them down. That is my .02 on that subject and it irritates me so many fail to see this.

We have really not fought a war for our “national survival”. They have been more of an armed peace corps type effort with ridiculous rules of engagement. We have not seen total war since WWII. I expect if the gloves were off it would be a major can of whoop-ass on somebody and yes, that would include China.

As others have correctly pointed out, China has little sealift capability nor the logistics capability and air/naval superiority to protect such a long logistics train. I realize the hypothetical was a premise for a discussion about immigration, but I sometimes see comments here that seem fearful of conquest from the outside. The real threat to America is the conquest from within and we are losing that battle, but there is still hope.

With that said - if people come here for the benefits they have no place in our nation.


41 posted on 06/10/2016 6:26:42 PM PDT by volunbeer (ABH for President! - Anybody but Hillary)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Of course they would leave. Just like all parasites do when they kill the host.


42 posted on 06/10/2016 6:45:43 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It only stands to reason that they would run like cowards! After all the Illegal Alien COWARDS RAN AWAY FROM THEIR OWN COUNTRY! Funny how they still have such a strong allegiance with the corrupt, morally bankrupt country they fled.


43 posted on 06/10/2016 6:46:53 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We have a war alrady—against illegal alien invaders and Islamic terrorists. What more do they want?


44 posted on 06/10/2016 6:47:44 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Like herpes, Cruz can always flare up again. Treat with Trump.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rollon- rolloff ships full of armor, troops and supplies. Airliners filled with troops and weaponry. They could take every international airport and port before anyone raised a finger.


45 posted on 06/10/2016 6:52:12 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Clean_Sweep

At least half a billion privately owned firearms and trillions of rounds of ammunition.


46 posted on 06/10/2016 6:54:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just like they did in the Sudan and Nigeria in the late 90s...the come in disguised as workers, students, corporate types, diplomats, doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs, then one morning, they take off their civvies and put on their uniforms.

Back in '99, the Cox report said they already had thousands of undercover military operatives here in the US. We'll simply wake up one morning to find they've seized the airport, and the airborne troops are on their way.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

47 posted on 06/10/2016 6:56:25 PM PDT by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Soldiers carrying briefcases, wearing suits and wielding pens will conquer us long before we need to worry about uniformed soldiers.


48 posted on 06/10/2016 6:57:17 PM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

Ignorant voters will do it before men in suits with briefcases........


49 posted on 06/10/2016 7:01:49 PM PDT by volunbeer (ABH for President! - Anybody but Hillary)
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To: soycd

If you expect nothing from people you will get nothing from them. At least when you take in legal immigrants and you vet them thoroughly (though I don’t think that the Democrat controlled immigration service really does its job) you will get the better quality of people, not the mouchers that we have been getting. Many immigrants fought in World War II and fought along side of native born Americans. Would illegal aliens do the same?

I have an idea, let’s start a rumor that there will be draft. The illegals will start heading for the border and the airports. :^D


50 posted on 06/10/2016 7:03:38 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Maybe we can pay China to stage a fake low-level invasion? Maybe with both sides armed with paintball guns?


51 posted on 06/10/2016 7:05:19 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: euram

Disagree wrt legal immigrants. I know several. They are FAR more pro-America than most native born Americans. By a ton!


52 posted on 06/10/2016 7:07:18 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: euram

It used to be that you had to wait several years at least before you could apply for immigration for a sibling. Now it seems that their whole extended families are here within a very short time. I think there is discrimination going on and it is the Democrats who are trying to keep out Europeans while bringing in everybody else.


53 posted on 06/10/2016 7:08:10 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: Secret Agent Man

Um, Trump has said basically that on a few occasions...


54 posted on 06/10/2016 7:10:00 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I almost makes an invasion worth it.


55 posted on 06/10/2016 7:14:49 PM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: SkyDancer

I have heard that they have their hands open at the food banks in addition to the other benefits that they get. I wish there was a way to help people who are truly in need and are Americans without helping illegals. I get letters from a food distribution charity and I have given in the past but now I wonder if their sense of Christian charity is not being exploited by the illegals. I wonder if private charities ask people for some kind of identity.

Could there be some way to help people that you know or friends of friends without getting it out to the general public where all the usual suspects will show up with their hands out.


56 posted on 06/10/2016 7:26:41 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: volunbeer
the U.S. military is second to none in the entire world.

In a conventional war.
Guerrilla or coins? not so much.

You are spot on regarding conquest from within.
57 posted on 06/10/2016 8:07:15 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Actually a lot of immigrants would stay and fight, including my relatives.


58 posted on 06/10/2016 8:34:40 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people..)
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To: rolling_stone

‘i don’t know maybe we can fake it till the illegals leave...’

Same thing I was thinking. You are on the right path.


59 posted on 06/10/2016 8:47:44 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: LadyDoc
Actually a lot of immigrants would stay and fight, including my relatives.

Never mentioned legal immigrants. The topic is the loyalty (or lack thereof) of ILLEGAL immigrants.

60 posted on 06/10/2016 8:49:19 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so that others don't have to do it for you.)
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