Posted on 05/25/2016 2:19:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Feel so badly for this man. What Kaiser and the State of California conspired to do to him is shameful.
It took me exactly one visit to figure out that they made their money by NOT treating people. Or worse. Needless to say, I bailed at the first opportunity.
Naturally, I can't say what went wrong here, but my experience way back then taught me all I needed to know about the quality of socialized medicine in the USA.
Sadly, it is all going to be like this if ObaMaoCare remains.
Between a rock and a hard place here. Modern practice is a lot more parsimonious with antibiotics than a few decades ago when it would have been done just out of principle. Which is an opportunity for a problem like this to arise. The doctors play the odds according to the game they are told to play.
If less than 6 percent of the cases referred by the medical board aren’t pursued by the AGs office, the ones rejected must be pretty weak.
Immoderate behavior over decades caught up with him
Aristotelian moderation is always a good guide
He has the right kind of name, Mario Guzman, but his problem is that he must be an American citizen. Now if he was an illegal, Kaiser would be paying him millions.
It doesn’t say what kind of injury he suffered, from which this infection started — it sounds almost like a fluke case. And it ravaged his limbs, but no report of internal damage? Weird. It might not have taken a lot to show that “this case received the best practices known to medical science.” OF COURSE I hope that medical science would learn from cases like this, but you can bet that if they do, it is on the Q.T. lest they attract more lawsuits. That is one problem with an overly heavy hand of the law — it drives the treatment of doubtful cases out of the sunlight.
I belong to Kaiser SoCal..this is the way it is with Kaiser, if you have something simple they can help you, if you have something more complicated, or you are old forget about it you are basically on your own.
I do believe there is something called informed consent. He had to be talked into it. 2nd opinion too late?
In the 90’s I was with Kaiser in LA.
I liked it, quick visits on short notice to local offices, and good care at the downtown hospital when I needed a shattered elbow repaired.
After a 5 hour operation on a Saturday the elbow is still working well after 17 years...:^)
We switched after our other provider company shortened doctor visits by 5 minutes and caused backups in the waiting rooms, especially by the end of the day.
One has to wonder how many illegals were in front of him in the ER.....
I had to go with a friend to the ER recently, many many illegals there, clogging up the works...
Took us 8 hours to get ANY help....
I should have just sewed up her leg, but some liberal lawyer would have probably thrown me in jail for performing medicine without a license....
My dad has had a triple by pass, a partial colostomy and knee replacement at Kiasar. He was 79 when he got the knee surgery. My mother had lasik eye surgery at 80. Kiasar has been good to them.
In the early ‘80s my girlfriend found that out when her mother, insured by Kaiser, came down with lung cancer. Their entire POV was “how do we get rid of this patient as fast as possible?”
One of our local hospitals had an urgent care attached to it. You would see a triage nurse and she would put yo on the list for either the emergency room or urgent care. Worked like a charm. About a year ago I headed over to the urgent care.....it was gone. I was so sick I went ahead and signed up in the emergency room. I was so sick I couldn’t sit down and could barely stand up. When I started throwing up the security guard brought me a barf bag. After about an hour I still hadn’t seen anyone so called a friend to come get me and take me to a different urgent care. Was too sick to drive. Must’ve took her at least half an hour to get there so in over 1 1/2 hrs they hadn’t even talked to me to find out what was wrong.
While standing in the waiting room I watched people. They were all chatting, hitting the vending machines and running in and out to smoke. Maybe 3 people actually needed to be at a hospital er.
Illegal aliens use ER as primary care. And we pay for it.
Sounds to me like it might be MRSA. And it might not even be related to his original symptoms. Vancomycin is not something you’d expect a doctor to prescribe if someone came in complaining of having hurt their ankle running. But when someone is looking for a place to place blame....
Unless it is a gunshot wound or a car wreck with massive trauma, always head to a suburban ER in an upper middle class neighborhood where you have a good chance of being the biggest problem they deal with.
Sorry for this guys pain. Unfortunately medicine isn’t perfect. He was treated appropriately. Just because he had the one in a million oddity does not make it criminal nor civilly liable. Docs and nurses can only respond to symptoms. He had an ankle injury. He felt like he had the flu. He was treated for that
Maybe if he had gone back the next day instead of when he was in sepsis for several days he would have had a better outcome
No one conspired to do anything to this man
He delayed return. One needs o be proactive in ones own care. Docs and nurses can only go by what patients describe as their symptoms. Like going to the mechanic. If you tell them your car needs a tune up that’s what you will get. If you say I don’t know what is wrong they check further
His ankle injury he attributed to running. Bad move because it was probably the effects of the infection. He should have gone on saying I don’t know why I feel so bad
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