[Talisker]

For their part, the DNC was willing to throw the nomination to Hillary to help her fool the marks, because they already knew the Republicans would take back the White House this year.

Oh I don't know - if Trump didn't magically appear on the scene, we'd be looking at Jeb laying the White House at her feet right now.

[Windflier]

“...if Trump didn’t magically appear on the scene, we’d be looking at Jeb laying the White House at her feet right now.”

If Trump hadn’t appeared, Joe Biden would now be the Dem front runner. No way the DNC would have given a sure win to Hillary. without Trump, Hillary would already be surrounded by wolves.